ORLY?

but what book did oogee read? i think i need that.

noone said were good. were trying to get there. and ldo it takes a bit more than reading one book (or books in general).
to get to nosebleeds you gotta "write" the books yourself. just not publish them off course.

what do you mean by breaking the rules btw?

402balls: whats your sn? cant remeber playing 402balls.

I'm talking about people saying other people suck at TD. I doubt they're good enough to know who sucks and who doesn't. They'd probably say oogee sucked, since he doesn't just play 2ww. That's all I'm saying.

Breaking the rules means playing almost anything, depending on the situation. Sometimes I'll cap and discard all.

lmao at this post.

My stars name is 99overall Exameter.

You cap and discard all? Explain this plz

If someone is bullying the table, I'll reraise him, cap, and discard all. Then he stops bullying.

What stakes do you play Machine Bid?

Interesting

I play microstakes

Hey,

If anyone is interested in talking more in depth over 8 game in general PM me. I play 4/8 regularly and would love to talk to others playing in the games so that we can improve together.

u play good sir

i guess im a 4/8 reg lol

played some 1020 too

edit: i suck, learning most of the games atm

99overall and Marten J you both play pretty good, but 99overall don't know why you are whining in the chat. Maybe you were having a bad day?

I've been playing some 8game for fun lately, my worst game is stud followed closely by stud8. Think I'm alright in the other games but I can't ever get a good hand in stud.

You too?

im learning 8game.. probably playing too high of stakes to start with, but regardless..

2-7 is far and away my worst game.

is this standard on my end?

PokerStars Game #28275100798: 8-Game (Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit, $100/$200) - 2009/05/16 18:09:51 ET
Table 'Horus III' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Tinkywinky ($8682 in chips)
Seat 2: Belledejour1 ($1700 in chips)
Seat 3: gordo16 ($6062 in chips)
Seat 4: ScoopIdo ($10868.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Boykee ($5853 in chips)
Seat 6: Iteopepe88 ($4167 in chips)
gordo16: posts small blind $50
ScoopIdo: posts big blind $100
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to gordo16 [3s Qh 4c 9h 2c]
Boykee: folds
Iteopepe88: folds
Tinkywinky: raises $100 to $200
Belledejour1: folds
gordo16: calls $150
ScoopIdo: calls $100
*** FIRST DRAW ***
gordo16: discards 2 cards [Qh 9h]
Dealt to gordo16 [3s 4c 2c] [8s 8h]
ScoopIdo: discards 2 cards
Tinkywinky: discards 2 cards
gordo16: checks
ScoopIdo: bets $100
Tinkywinky: raises $100 to $200
gordo16: calls $200
ScoopIdo: calls $100
*** SECOND DRAW ***
gordo16: discards 1 card [8h]
Dealt to gordo16 [3s 4c 2c 8s] [Kh]
ScoopIdo: discards 1 card
Tinkywinky: discards 1 card
gordo16: checks
ScoopIdo: checks
Tinkywinky: bets $200
gordo16: calls $200
ScoopIdo: raises $200 to $400
Tinkywinky: calls $200
gordo16: calls $200
*** THIRD DRAW ***
gordo16: discards 1 card [Kh]
Dealt to gordo16 [3s 4c 2c 8s] [Jd]
ScoopIdo: stands pat
Tinkywinky: discards 1 card
gordo16: checks
ScoopIdo: checks
Tinkywinky: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gordo16: shows [3s 8s 4c Jd 2c] (Lo: J,8,4,3,2)
ScoopIdo: shows [6c 8d 5d 2d 7d] (Lo: 8,7,6,5,2)
Tinkywinky: mucks hand
ScoopIdo collected $2397 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2400 | Rake $3
Seat 1: Tinkywinky mucked [7h 6s 4s Kc 2h]
Seat 2: Belledejour1 (button) folded before the Draw (didn't bet)

I probably would have folded this preflop as you are oop and being out of position in 2-7 is just a nightmare (like every form of poker), but maybe even more so in 2-7 I believe.

If I am playing out of the sb and discarding 2 it would be against a loose button raiser who is likely drawing to 2 also, but perhaps a worse 2.

You really wanting to be playing drawing to 1 and isolating when playing out of the sb.

Also, if I do play a hand such as this oop I 3 bet preflop to isolate.

That's my 2 cents...

thanks so much for the help!

I could be wrong, but I don't think folding the 432 here before the first draw to a single raise is standard, especially at this level.

I thought about this hand some more, and I think playing it is ok vs many opponents, but I would DEFINITELY 3 bet it rather than call to isolate.

Yeah I would never fold that before 1st draw. Then again I kinda suck at 2-7 and I generally play my hand pretty straightforward. Though I did experiment with a couple bluffs and they actually worked...still got a lot to learn about that game though. Seems like there's a ton of strategy involved and some intricate plays are possible.

On another note I switched to a much more aggro 3betting strategy in Stud8 and it seemed to work really well yesterday.

3-bet pre is standard imo

folding pre would be terrible. I'd have played the whole hand the same, although I have no idea whether flatting or 3-betting pre is better.

isnt it best to bet out after the 1st draw when we improve from our 2 carddraw to a 1 carddraw and both others drew to aswell?

i also agree that predraw is never a fold. if you 3bet or coldcall is style dependant imo. but if you dont 3bet bad 2 carddraws also it will turn your hand faceup if you 3bet with your strong ones.

confirm

i struggled the most with the stud games and still do and dint find 2-7 very hard to learn.

plo is tough too if there are some good plo regs at the table like you

[ ] good advice

I just wrote down my opinion at the time, and would change it now. I didn't know that was such a crime.

Why don't you write your opinion and reasoning behind your statement rather than just flame me. That would actually be constructive and you never know you actually might get something out of it yourself.

I never understood people like you who just flame for no reason.

I hope your next post is more positive please