Hi all,

This hand we are in the SB and a tight player limps in the CO, we completed with A23r (xx) and BB checks. Should we be raising this?

D1: 2,3,2. We make an 8-dugi K lo A238K. We check to co who bets $20. He's pretty nitty. Hero? Do we want to take our 8-dugi to showdown? Seems like it may not be strong enough against this V.

Thanks,
DT

I mean, you have a draw to the nut badugi preflop. Not sure how there's an open limp by the cutoff and you categorize him as "tight". Does he open limp/overlimp his entire playing range, which is narrow in nature? Seems odd that he open limped and he's categorized as "tight."

Yes, you should be raising here with (A23)xx. Badacey right? You're drawing to nut badugi and potentially nut A-5 hand. Easy raise here.

I think you should x/c as played after first draw. You have (A238)K right? Think x/c and draw one. If bb comes along, our 832A badugi may be good depending on what the second draw and third draws go like. Also, you still have two draws to improve your badugi. You can also make a smooth 8 hi for the A-5 side.

Yeah the is a raise pre. And I’d probably just bet the flop

Agreed. If OP raised pre, then it's a pretty clear cbet after the first draw.

As played, though, I like a x/c.

raise pre. draw 2. Against a limp, I'm usually raise/4betting if the bb 3bets and co calls. you push so much equity with a23 multiway. just completing is atrocious.
c-bet. draw 2.

as played: call, draw 2.
Here the 8-dugi is pretty irrelevant. It's 2nd draw, a23 and a238 are almost the same this early in the hand (question: is he ever keeping a 9-dugi after first draw in a 2, 2 spot? probably not; moreover, bb can still improve to beat an 8-dugi so it's not like you're home free if co pats an 8 both ways). Also, playability, keeping the 8 seriously limits your potential to pile the money in if you catch well and forces (?) you to call down unimproved. -- if you're an experienced 2-7 triple draw player, analogize this to catching a 9 after first draw in a similar spot in deuce (i.e. you want to toss it if you're drawing smooth--3-card a23 is the smoothest it gets).

If you're playing $50/100, spend the $25 and get a copy of Dylan Linde's book. It's not great, but it'll give you a sense of badeucey/badacey math, which will help you immensely.

As passive as the flop bettor is, there's some merit to XR here. You still have a premium 2CD both ways and eliminating the third player is worth putting in an extra bet even though the bettor is an equity favorite. If he's 60-40 HU then you're losing 20% of a bet to gain a lot from the third player folding.

In your best universe, the bettor's made a lowball 7 with a worse tri and you're freerolling for half the pot. More likely, he's made a decent badugi (7 at worst) that may or may not have a good lowball hand yet, and you're still drawing live. What you don't want to do is catch something like a smooth lowball 7 / unimproved tri that beats the flop bettor one way but loses to the third player that way. Regardless you have a lot of equity unless he's only betting a 6 dugi or better.

Also if he 3-bets that's going to help you make good decisions on later streets. At that point you probably only want to show down if you make a 6 or better one of the ways, right?

Disclaimer: I actually know nothing about this game lol.

Not unusual for a tight player to open limp LP in a split pot game. It's unlikely he's any good though.