Hi all,

100/200 with a kill. We open 235r utg and get two callers, co and bb.

($700) 2,2,2. We draw a 4 but no badugi. We have improvement on the low side though, so we bet and they both call. Our three card badugi could still be in the lead as well.

($1000) Bb draws 2, we draw 1, btn draws 1. We draw a 4, pairing up. We slow down now. Should we continue betting?

Checks to btn who bets, bb calls and we call. ($1600)

We make an 8 low but no badugi. Checks to btn who bets $200, bb calls. We are getting very good odds. Hero?

Thanks,
DT

Maybe I'm missing something...but I don't see what the action was on the last draw....

First draw, 2, 2, 2.

Second draw, 2, 1, 1.

Third draw, ?, ?, ?.

Also, you said this was $100/$200 with a kill pot. You posted another $100/$200 with a kill pot hand which had betting limits of $150 and $300, which lines up with a half kill, yet this hand has betting limits of $100 and $200 based on your calculations of the pot size.

It seems you aren't getting all the details correct in your hand histories. Some say kill pot but don't account for that correctly in the pot size (this one and others I've seen in the past).

Sorry, there was no kill this hand but the game was playing with a kill. The action on the last draw was 1,1,1.

If this hand in particular didn't have the kill on, you shouldn't even state that it's "100/200 with a kill" in your OP. That is irrelevant to this particular hand and can only lead to confusion.

Also, is this 6-handed? Please stop using utg in your hand histories. If it's 6-handed, just say "100/200, we open raise from the lojack with (235)xx and are called by cutoff and bb."

Also, would be helpful to know your entire hand.

Lastly, if you open raised and cutoff and bb called, wouldn't the pot be $650 going into the first draw, and not $700? $50/$100 blinds, $100/$200 betting limits? You raised to $200, and cutoff and bb called. $600 + the sb's $50, no?

It was 7-handed. I may have gotten the pot wrong by $50 yes. Good catch.

Think this is just a fold pre-flop, without an A Hero needs to open a very strong range.

Checking after 2nd draw, betting is a little suicidal and even check-calling if btn bets feels bad since he is often ahead both ways and can pat rough lows when hero d2.

River cry call seems ok.

Too nitty. Hand was played ok. Check first draw is ok too.

I think folding pre is way too nitty, I like betting first draw and checking second draw.

I think if you call river you’re hoping your 3c dugi is good.

If it goes 1,1,1 check, bet, call, then back to you I don’t see how your 8 is ever good for half. Only time that’s the case is if say 86 dugi is betting and 9smooth dugi is calling hoping for half.

Pretty sure this river is a crying fold.

I would call river, it seems likely button is betting a dugi since he bet then drew on last draw and bb could either have made a decent dugi to call with or could be calling with a rougher low than yours (since he should also be putting button on a dugi).

235 is a good hand. The highest card in your tri is much more important than having an ace. Hand ranking is based mainly on the highest card, not the lowest card. 235 is better than A45, certainly than A26.

Call after 3rd draw. Too good odds, and maybe half the pot.