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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
Everyone has shown interest in the hand and live players call too much so cc is really pretty bad. Plus everyone drew 2 so your 3b range should be quite wide. It’s a disaster not to include your best hands in such situations. Also pre is really not close vs almost anyone. You can’t just fold this hand getting better than 5:1 vs wide ranges.
I read "cc" as check-call, and I would not advocate check-call with a big hand hardly ever, and villain in this hand is not in a position to do it. I'll admit I'm confused by the reference.
For villain this is a standard spot -- facing two bets in position multiway vs wide ranges after 2:2:2 & 2:2:2 -- to use a two-step approach to underrep a hand and get additional action from players who would A) jam the top of their range if we call in the middle, B) fold weaker hands to more action or C) likely bet/call on the river. There are two opponents and a lot of ways for this to work out, and they compound to more bets going in often.
If villain 3bets, the opener may fold and the raiser may break and not make enough to call the river, meaning we get one additional bet of profit in the pot. If we smooth call the opener can call and draw dead, and the raiser has a strong incentive to barrel or bet his hand for value on the river. This seems pretty straightforward.
Three-betting a big hand is basically never bad, but this is a spot where I often take semi-passive lines in position vs multiple players with a hand that isn't vulnerable. That's why I mentioned it.
I mean, none of this is a sure thing, but this line has worked pretty well for me and I see it enough from other players to consider it.