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07-17-2018 , 02:14 PM

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i open 2346 in co, sb 3bets, bb 4 bets i call.
1-2-1. i have 82346
c/ bet, i raise, sb calls, 3bet, i 4bet, call, call
1, pat, pat
c/, c/, i bet, call, bb raises, i call down.

is this a spot where i can get away on turn vs a recreational player?

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07-17-2018 , 09:40 PM

Smarty 2.0

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No, never.

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07-18-2018 , 02:47 AM

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There are definitely people you can fold the river against. I wouldn't fold the turn

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07-18-2018 , 11:45 AM

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i think a better question is what is the worst hand you call down with?
fwiw, i did call down in this hand and felt like it was pretty standard.
there was another hand in the same session i did make a fold i'm not sure about:
i was in co and raised 2345, sb 3bet (rec straightforward player) bb call, i 4bet, call call
1-2-1
j2345
bet, call, call
pat, 1-1
85432
bet, call, i raise, call, call
pat, 1, pat
sb donks out, bb fold, i raise, sb snap 3bets, i fold.
fwiw i saw him call down vs 1 raise on turn hu with an 86 after 2nd draw was 1-1
probably still have to call tho getting a million to 1?

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07-18-2018 , 05:36 PM

RolldUpTrips

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Honestly you're probably not supposed to raise his river bet. I certainly like the fold to the 3b

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07-18-2018 , 06:15 PM

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Honestly you're probably not supposed to raise his river bet.

yeah 100% agree in hindsight.

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07-26-2018 , 09:36 AM

zoogenhiem

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In original hand with the 86, are we not overplaying it on turn? Would it be better to call the bb's cbet to leave sb in and let them pat drawing dead and underrep our hand? As for us 4betting, do we even have such an equity advantage to push here? I feel like 87s even could get away by river...at least we could wait to charge them until a big bet street. Do people think OP's line is standard or is this open to discussion?

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