I don't have specific hand to post but this general spot has come up a few times when playing 2-7 TD for me and I finished most of the hands feeling like a fish and clueless.

Basically when the pot is single raised in a HU pot, whether or not I am the raiser, i end up with a smooth gutshot straight draw that can make a 7 or strong 8, like 2346 or 2345, and on the 2nd draw, the other player pats and bets.

I am mostly assuming I can only win if I get an 8 or 7 but sometimes will pay off with a 9 and fold the rest and check back if I don't make my hand if he checks (idk if that's right but seems it)

Should I be calling to hit?

What about if the pot is multiway and someone is pat?

The question is a little hard to answer out of context, etc. but I'm having a hard time envisioning HU spots where folding 2345 or 2346 is correct. Perhaps this is just a failure of imagination.

Going off the heuristics I've learned in my somewhat limited 2-7td experience, I'm not folding any 1 card draw to a 7 to a single bet on the flop.

I think it depends. Generally HU in a single raised pot you won't be getting the odds to draw once to a 7 or 8. Against straight forward opponents I tend to fold the turn with these hands, but if your opponent is a quick patter and/or fishy ie they dont have much of a folding range for their pat hands otr I will probably draw

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Sorry if my post was unclear. I meant to a bet after the 2nd draw. Pot is gonna be roughly 3 bets after the villain bets after the 2nd draw so pot odds are 3-1 drawing to up to 8 but more realistically 7 outs

It's hard to be more specific based on your post, but we are always calling the turn here w 2345x or 2346x

And then folding without catching a 7 or 8?

Not necessarily. Depending on various factors (villain's snowing frequency, his threshold for patting/vbetting, card removal, and more), you can snow catch 9/T or sometimes even worse. We can also bluff or bluff-raise straights, top pr, etc.

For example, if we've seen all the deuces and villain bets the river, the best hand he could have is 86543 and so we may bluff raise. Some players will never b/f the river in 2-7 so the exploit might be to raise for value thinner and refrain from bluff raising.

2-7 td is easy game to learn, but it isn't so easy that it's boring and robotic imo. Gl

Don't think you did the math right, believe it's around 4.25 to 4.75 to 1 depending on whether or not there is dead money from blinds.

Situation dependent. Some players do this with a T or J. Some it’s always a 9 or bad 8. Others may do it with nutty hands. Some mix it up.

What does this mean?

Someone who stays pat can have anything from the nuts to in most cases 9. And then snows. Yes sometimes weird players or situations you might see a T or J but mostly the range is polarized. Why would some people always have a 9 or a bad 8?

I can’t explain other people’s strategy. Point is it’s generally somewhat read dependent based on the player you’re facing.

Maybe I’m not sure what we are talking about but no matter what someone’s strategy is someone would always pat and bet the nuts if they had it

I've seen it happen more times than you'd think then. Trying to induce? I'm not sure what they're thinking.

While we're on the subject of folding 4 good cards with 1 draw left, whats the best draw that should be folded?

A couple of times I had it where I had something like 8762 (lets say i draw 2 to 762 pre and catch the 8 on the 1st draw and the villain pats the 2nd draw and bets), where if i hit my hand I dont know its any good. Is that a good candidate to fold?

Situational but yes.

We are probably just a on a different wavelength here as I'm not sure what you are saying. The perils of not having an actual example to work with I guess.

Basically the gist of this thread is OP is asking whether or not he should be calling with these hands. The answer is simply yes (due to pot odds and implied odds) even in the spots where our opponent has the strongest of his range in a once raised pot e.g. he raises from early and draws one.

In thw case against the strongest of ranges he can safely fold a nine or worse imo because chances of snow is unlikely. However, if the opponent is coming from a steal spot of defending a blind the situation is more snowy and should probably call with a least 9s to pick off snows and possible loose value betting due to possible untrusting dynamic.

So presumably it's gonna be an 87 draw, you're never folding an 86 draw in that spot?