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10-18-2015 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueLagoon32
I think it all depends on how aggressive you want to play it.

Obv. going for FL = more aggressive.

Aggro = QJ/KK/2
Stable = _/KK2h/QJcc
You wrote "stable" but I think you misspelled "terrible"
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10-18-2015 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LVpokerPRO
Q-kk2-J
this, and it's not particularly close
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10-18-2015 , 07:12 PM
No one going KK/2/QcJc? Maybe I play too much KK FL.
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10-18-2015 , 08:13 PM
@Alpha could you share why? see my questions to LV a few posts above
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10-18-2015 , 11:21 PM
If we're not playing pineapple it's gotta be Q/J/KK2, is that or Q/2/KKJ really so bad in pineapple? Less FL but you just about never foul and you're making lots more bonuses on the bottom. With something like Q/KK/J2 I estimate 33% FL, 33% no FL but we survive, 33% foul (agree/disagree?), doesn't seem like a slam dunk vs a truly safe set.
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10-19-2015 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by OnMyBike
@Alpha could you share why? see my questions to LV a few posts above
I don't like to put 2 cards on the bottom that have no chance of making a straight, if J2 were suited then I'm fine playing it like that. also if we see an ace or a pair next turn we're not capped to 2 pair or AA on the bottom
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10-22-2015 , 05:04 AM
Game is 3 handed OFC-Pineapple. FL QQ+
My friend (first to act) gets dealt KKKKQ and goes for Quads in the back Q up top.

At the time, I thought KK/KK/Q (top/mid/bot) was the better option.
My reasoning was that it would be fairly easy to get to FL and in that particular game I feel that FL is very profitable and I pretty much always aim for it.

Thinking about it now, I was probably dead wrong.
Does it change if it is an ACE i/o Q?
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10-22-2015 , 05:26 AM
I only play pineapple
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10-22-2015 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by vruuuuk
Game is 3 handed OFC-Pineapple. FL QQ+
My friend (first to act) gets dealt KKKKQ and goes for Quads in the back Q up top.

At the time, I thought KK/KK/Q (top/mid/bot) was the better option.
My reasoning was that it would be fairly easy to get to FL and in that particular game I feel that FL is very profitable and I pretty much always aim for it.

Thinking about it now, I was probably dead wrong.
Does it change if it is an ACE i/o Q?
You're giving up 10 to increase your FL chances, sounds like people say QQ+FL is worth 7+8 = 15. So we need to increase our FL chances by 67% for Q/KK/KK to be better. We're only 60% to get another Q so that's impossible. I think A goes in the middle, and maybe Q does too, b/c you can't pair either up top right away, not worth the risk of losing your 10-point bonus.
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10-23-2015 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mikechike
You're giving up 10 to increase your FL chances, sounds like people say QQ+FL is worth 7+8 = 15. So we need to increase our FL chances by 67% for Q/KK/KK to be better. We're only 60% to get another Q so that's impossible. I think A goes in the middle, and maybe Q does too, b/c you can't pair either up top right away, not worth the risk of losing your 10-point bonus.
What I meant by "A instead of Q" was in my setup. This is, if going Q/KK/KK is wrong, is A/KK/KK a good option?
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10-23-2015 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by vruuuuk
What I meant by "A instead of Q" was in my setup. This is, if going Q/KK/KK is wrong, is A/KK/KK a good option?
I get dealt that hand all the time
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10-25-2015 , 05:45 AM
Anyone looking for pineapple action at 1 to 10 a point add me on the pineapple app. My username is relaxursoul. If you are a very reputable member i will post before match starts.
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11-04-2015 , 07:27 AM
3-handed Pineapple QQ+
1st to act with:
1st situation: 8 7 T 3 Q
2nd situation: 3 5 4 4 T
3rd situation: 2 2 4 4 Q

I tend to always go:
1st - Q / 87 / T3 (maybe Q / 73 / T8)
2nd - _ / 3544 / T
3rd - Q / 2244/ __

On the first situation, I see people going with the diamonds in the back, but I really don't like that because when I draw a T, then I'm stuck with flush/straight since 2 pair will not be good to get to fantasy.

On the second, I really struggle with this small pairs in the beginning and I opt to just ut all the small cards in the middle to go QQ+ / 2 pair / 2 pair+. I also see a lot of people going with the fours in the back here, but when I don't draw a T it really sucks.

On the third, I just use the same reasoning and in the 2nd and try to get myself that QQ+ / 2 pair / 2 pair+. I just hate small pairs in the back, am I dead wrong here?
If it's and Ace or K instead of Q, I think I would go _ / A / 2244.

Any thoughts on this?
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11-04-2015 , 10:59 AM
you're way overthinking it
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11-04-2015 , 11:38 AM
Maybe I am, but I want to do it now that I'm trying to learn the game so that I can insta make this decisions in the future because I feel like these spots happen quite often.

Humblebrag: In my group of friends I'm the biggest winner at the moment (lolstakes and lolsample size), but I kinda feel that it has been happening more consistently because of how I "overthink" the initial hand and that's why I want to learn more about it.

I understand this is nearly impossible to solve, but the more opinions I get, the merrier.
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11-04-2015 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by vruuuuk
Maybe I am, but I want to do it now that I'm trying to learn the game so that I can insta make this decisions in the future because I feel like these spots happen quite often.

Humblebrag: In my group of friends I'm the biggest winner at the moment (lolstakes and lolsample size), but I kinda feel that it has been happening more consistently because of how I "overthink" the initial hand and that's why I want to learn more about it.

I understand this is nearly impossible to solve, but the more opinions I get, the merrier.
Hand 2 put the pair and T bottom
Hand 3 split the pairs, 44 bottom 22 middle and Q top

Pretty much all 3 hands were wrong lol
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11-05-2015 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by vruuuuk
3-handed Pineapple QQ+
1st to act with:
1st situation: 8 7 T 3 Q
2nd situation: 3 5 4 4 T
3rd situation: 2 2 4 4 Q

I tend to always go:
1st - Q / 87 / T3 (maybe Q / 73 / T8)
2nd - _ / 3544 / T
3rd - Q / 2244/ __



Any thoughts on this?
1) Q-3-7810
2)X-35-4410
3) Q-22-44

If you had K or A hand 3 both pairs bottom with A or K middle, imo
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11-05-2015 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LVpokerPRO
1) Q-3-7810
2)X-35-4410
3) Q-22-44

If you had K or A hand 3 both pairs bottom with A or K middle, imo
I would like to understand why these are correct and mine are wrong.
My think is pretty straight forward, FL > Royalties. I usually play vs 1 villain that goes for royalties neglecting FL and 1 villain that fouls a lot, so getting into FL often is usually beneficial for me.
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11-06-2015 , 06:49 AM
HU Pineapple QQ+

1) first to act, villain set K 3 in the back and offsuit A 2 4 in the middle

Hero
x x x
J 10 x x x
6 3 4 x x

dealt 8 9 Q

2) I think this one is obvious, just want to make sure

first to act, villain has pair of 6s in the middle (full row), 3 diamonds in the back (K high), and an 8 up top. four spots open

Hero
Q Q x
K K 4 x x
A 4 10 2 x

dealt 5 5 A

3) I'm pretty sure I know this one but I hope its less obvious than #2, won't be surprised if I'm wrong.

2nd to act, villain has 3 to a flush in the back, 2 pair in the middle (full row), and a 8 up top. villain has no Qs or 10s. 4 spots open

Hero
6 x x
A A 4 x x
Q Q 10 x x

dealt K A A
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11-06-2015 , 09:43 AM
on #3 no idea what the 6 is doing up top there. It should never, ever be there. it should be in middle, and then you should put the AA up top
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11-06-2015 , 12:39 PM
Seems like an easy spot to put AA up top the third hand. Have a lot of outs to hit two pair or trips on the bottom and all you will need in the middle is a kicker better than a 6 to qualify.

First hand I would just complete the flush. Second hand, meh. playing the ace on the bottom seems pretty nitty but I gamble way too much in this game.
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11-06-2015 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by vruuuuk
I would like to understand why these are correct and mine are wrong.
My think is pretty straight forward, FL > Royalties. I usually play vs 1 villain that goes for royalties neglecting FL and 1 villain that fouls a lot, so getting into FL often is usually beneficial for me.
his sets maximize your chances to go to fantasy.
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11-11-2015 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LVpokerPRO
1) Q-3-7810
2)X-35-4410
3) Q-22-44

If you had K or A hand 3 both pairs bottom with A or K middle, imo
X2
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11-11-2015 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DrawNone
HU Pineapple QQ+

1) first to act, villain set K 3 in the back and offsuit A 2 4 in the middle

Hero
x x x
J 10 x x x
6 3 4 x x

dealt 8 9 Q

2) I think this one is obvious, just want to make sure

first to act, villain has pair of 6s in the middle (full row), 3 diamonds in the back (K high), and an 8 up top. four spots open

Hero
Q Q x
K K 4 x x
A 4 10 2 x

dealt 5 5 A

3) I'm pretty sure I know this one but I hope its less obvious than #2, won't be surprised if I'm wrong.

2nd to act, villain has 3 to a flush in the back, 2 pair in the middle (full row), and a 8 up top. villain has no Qs or 10s. 4 spots open

Hero
6 x x
A A 4 x x
Q Q 10 x x

dealt K A A
1. flush

2. pair the ace

3. AA top

everything else is terrible
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11-12-2015 , 04:10 PM
Some average starters that have gotten various responses. Assume first to act, 3 handed:
AA772
Jc 6c Tc 56
As 3s Kd 5d 2h
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