Anybody has this course and would like to give me a review about it. Thank you in advance.

Had access to it for free as I used to be an affiliate. Would not recommend it.

thank you

thank you, do you have any other recommendations to learn all those mix game?

I would check out deuces cracked for videos by death donkey, Joe tall, and Chuck D

I have heard that not all of those videos are still online, but if they are I think it’s a much better resource

I can't seem to access the deucescracked site anymore. Shame... it had some really good content. RIP deucescracked.

Yeah it did, all of those videos were great and entertaining.

I have nothing to recommend now..

i tried to sign up for a sub sometime last year and it just kept bouncing

i've only watched the o8 and 2-7 series.

i'd say o8 was well explained and easily understandable.

2-7 was a little too advanced for me the first time i watched it since i didn't come from a 2-7 background, but after re-watching it a 2nd time, i thought the concepts he tried to explain were really well thought-out. i know theres some who disagree with some of his strategies/concepts, but a strategy that is mostly correct is still better than no strategy.

In the 2-7 section, I think I spotted what I would consider to be errors in some turn spots. For example he has a section covering where you are OOP D2 vs Villain's D1 IP. You make a pat 97 and I believe he advocates check/call and break which just breaks off way too much equity, it may cost around 1 big bet in expectation which you cannot recoup on last betting round


In O8 section he starts of going over frequencies for openings. Then he said to just go to a website to figure out what hands we should play. I found that somewhat amusing. I get the fact that there are just soo many O8b hands but handle it somehow. Sure everyone knows what really good hands look like. But what about marginal stuff. Like when should we first open A(45)8?


I don't think he chose the best sample hands. Some of them were relatively standard. You should always try and choose hands that illustrate at least two key concepts.


I have more nitpicks but I mean I didn't hate it, probably just did not live up to my expectations.

I think the series is overall well done, but Scotch's criticisms are reasonable. I should watch it again (have had more coaching in 27TD and O8 since I watched it initially) to see what I think about it now. I watched it when it was first released -- for 50% off -- so my opinion might change a bit.

I was a big fan of the Upswing course. I had a good amount experience with these games going in, so some potential details being skipped might have been lost on me. But there was a lot of good strategy and a lot of good math with ranges in the various games.

The difficulty with stud games and o/8 is that the situations that can come up and so numerous, it's hard to pinpoint the most important things IMO. I found the course to be very helpful in giving me a solid foundation, and I haven't found much else in terms of videos or books that are particularly in depth and also keeping with more current trends and strategies in these games.

Obviously there is a lot of old material, and it's useful, but doesn't really fit with the way that people play these games in today's climate, whether mixed cash or tournaments.

Same problem. Sad thing is I was a member for years but never archived it/wasn't as interested in the non-hold'em content back then. Whoever bought the site and domain had big plans but never got anywhere with them.

yeah. i mean there'd be occasional stuff on cardrunners but i basically only played PLO back then.

kinda sucks cause there's a lot of stuff i'd be highly interested in now.

You might want to check out the Wayback Machine. Hopefully they have some content archived.

can't imagine wayback giving access to gated/sub content, though.

why not?

I expanded abit in a later post. Mostly failed the battle of the expectations. Thought the slides were sloppily put together and he kind of dodged some talking about some of the key issues. And he kind of misses the boat on many of his turn 27TD guidance and the math with just one draw to go really is not that hard so I found it somewhat inexcusable.

Basically I’m saying I wouldn’t be happy had I paid $999 for that

Glad to have read these reviews. I have quite a bit of experience with the games, but I’ve been away from poker for a while and was thinking that I might wish to sharpen my skills with a course before I return to playing bigger live games? I watched the 51 min YouTube O/8 teaser which was touted as “advanced strategies,” and, suffice it to say, I did not deem much in the video to be advanced (it was more solid intermediate advice). But I considered that perhaps the teaser was less-advanced than the rest of the course content? And I also considered that perhaps I am not the target audience? (The YouTube video is entitled “How He Won MILLIONS Playing Mixed Games,” and it’s basically supposed to be an ad for the course.) At one point, Polk refers to opening with a strong high-only wrap hand as a “top tier” 0/8 strategy...

I am quite hesitant to spend 1000$ on the course at this point. But I don't see any other options/alternatives available?
Maybe new Linde book about Mixed games?
It also sucks that low/mid-level mix games are almost non-existent except in Vegas and LA.

I have a copy of the Linde book. It’s ok but it’s a 300 page book covering like ten games so the amount of time dedicated to each game is not much.

And opening standards for 2-7 TD appears to be too loose (open 43 and 54 from button) and too tight in Badugi (folding 24 and rough 8s from button). If you sum up combos will be opening less than 30% from button in Badugi.

I just got the book today.

I also find some 5 series videos ( by Leah ) on Mixed Games in Tournament Poker Edge but it appears basic and quite old.

as far as Upswing course goes I might buy it then they will discount it again ( maybe Black Friday sale... ).

Anything good on Run It Once?
Looking for anything covering most of the games:

No-Limit Hold’em; Limit Hold’em; Razz; Seven Card Stud; Seven Card Stud Hi-Lo 8 or Better; Seven
Card Stud Hi-Lo Regular; Pot-Limit Hold’em; Pot-Limit Omaha; Pot-Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 8 or Better;
Pot-Limit 2-7 Lowball Triple Draw; Big O; Limit Omaha High; Omaha Hi-Lo 8 or Better; Limit 2-7
Lowball Triple Draw; Ace to 5 Lowball Triple Draw; Badugi; Badeucy; Badacy; No-Limit 2-7 Lowball
Draw; No-Limit 5-Card Draw High; Archie; Drawmaha