Is there anyplace to play either mixed games or any of TD/Badugi/Badeucy/Badacey in AC/PA/MD/CT at say $15/30 and below? I think the Borgata gets a mix much bigger than I'd play.

Does anyone know which states can spread these? I'd be especially interested in getting a pink chip ($7.50/$15) mix game going in either AC or PA on most weekends for the foreseeable future if anyone wants to assist.

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None that I know of but I haven’t been at casinos for awhile

You can possibly get a $20/40 mix going at Borgata sometime. Maybe odds increase in June during summer tournament series. Can put you in touch with a few people that would play

Foxwoods is approved to spread 2-7td and badugi, no badeucy and badacey, but never seen it run outside of the 75/150 (or higher) mix game. They really should remove that there’s a regular lower stakes mix from Bravo. I’m actually moving to the Midwest from New England in a week but I’d otherwise have loved to help you get a game going atbrhw Woods. Best of luck and keep us posted.

Little higher than you’d like but there’s a regular 20/40 mix that runs at MGM National Harbor outside of DC. Nice room, good mix, good group.


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What games in that mix? And how often/regularly does it run? I tried to ask these questions in the MGMNH thread but didn't get replies. I'd make a trip to visit a friend and play the game a day or two if it's regular.

Have been away from the East Coast Poker scene for a couple of years now, but was deeply entrenched for years. Can provide this info in the spirit of trying to assist:

Borgata used to have several iterations of the “pink chip mix.” Several long-time regulars at that property tried repeatedly to get that game going/healthy, and sometimes it would go every weekend for a few months at a time, but eventually it would, invariably, fizzle. If you speak with the legendary Borgata poker hostess Mable, I’m certain she can help you communicate with the other players who would like to see that game run again; but please don’t get overly discouraged if your efforts are met with passivity, lethargy, or even eye rolls because people got cranky trying to organize that game on the reg. (They even tried to get it going at Caesars AC a couple of times, and that also failed.) Borgata also occasionally spread (spreads?) 15/30 O8, OE, or SE. Those games would usually play on Saturdays. They seemed to die from time-to-time, and then pop back up again out of nowhere. But the 15/30 at Borg could trace its lineage to a legendarily juicy 15/30 that played at the Taj every Saturday, so that game has been going off and on for a very long time.

Harrahs AC used to run a 10/20 OE game every Tuesday night. (I think sometimes it also played as 8/16 or pink chip?) I don’t know if that game still goes, but it was fun and there was action. It was known as “the dealer’s choice game” because it was the game all of the AC dealers “chose” to play on their night off. Occasionally a third or 4th game would be added to the mix, too. For all I know that room doesn’t even exist anymore! But if it does and the game still goes, it’s worth checking out...

We used to play a pink chip mix at The Horseshoe in Baltimore. That game was going regularly every Saturday for a while, and then it died. Some of us tried to revive it, but there was an incident wherein the floor indicated to us that, yes, we could play A-5 triple draw in the mix; however, it turns out that this was not an approved game at the time (this was several years ago now). For some stupid reason, only A-5 single draw had been approved by the MD Gaming Commission at that time, but, obviously, that’s not even a thing! The floorman involved was trying very hard to accommodate the regular player pool, but after he and several dealers were admonished for allowing the game to be spread, the pink chip died totally. But MD has approved most all of the games for the mix now, so no issues there, and I recount this information to you just to say that, yes, there is definitely a player pool in MD who wants to see these games spread regularly.

We also used to play 8/16 or 10/20 HORSE at MD Live. That game was going semi-regularly for about a year on Saturdays before it, too, died a couple of years ago. Once or twice we played 20/40 OE (but we all knew one another so no soft spots), and I think we played 30/60 stud hi on Tuesdays a couple of times, too? But that was mostly long-time players degen’ing it up together, frankly. MDL also used to run an affordable HORSE tournament during its NLHE tournament series, so look out for that maybe? People tried for years to get 10/20 and 20/40 LHE games going at Live, but we only ever really played 20/40 (and sometimes 30/60) a few times per month. Otherwise, we played 50/100 on Mondays and 75/150 on Fridays (although those games actually played bigger with kills, rocks, etc.). My understanding is that now they’re playing 60/120 at MGMNH instead?

You’re probably already aware that there’s a 75/150 mix at MGMNH, but that’s too big, no? I have heard that a smaller mix goes sometimes, but I’m not familiar because I’ve been gone since just before that property opened.

Parx may be your best option? Parx has succeeded in maintaining mid-stakes limit action when other properties have struggled (with the exception of the LHE and stud-hi action at Borg).

Finally, I would suggest considering asking the limit regulars in your nearest poker room where they are playing during the week. The East Coast poker scene has always maintained a healthy mid-stakes mix environment—it’s just that the games aren’t going on in the casinos! The obvious drawbacks to this are the higher rake that is typically attendant with “home” games; the illegality; and the various sketch-factors. But some of my favorite (and some of the most lucrative) mixed games over the years have been played on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday nights in homes set up for poker, and there are dozens (or hundreds?) of them running constantly between Boston and D.C. at all kinds of stakes. I eventually came to believe that part of the reason that the casino poker rooms have so much trouble maintaining healthy mid-stakes limit games is that so much of that particular player pool just prefers to play in their regular local “home” games. Many of the grinders in those games play bigger games at the casino properties on the weekends, and then drop in stakes during the week. (For various reasons, the bigger games at the casino properties stay fairly consistently intact from year-to-year whereas the mid stakes have been much less consistent since the NL boom.) Of course, beware of the hu$tle in the home games...

I hope at least some of this was helpful. DM me if you want for me to make any specific inquiries on your behalf.

Maybe that game at Harrahs AC went (goes?) on Mondays, not Tuesdays? I probably made several such mistakes in my post, and I’m sure people on here can correct me and certainly can provide more current info.

Same questions -- like you said, it's a little bit big for me but if I snap off one of these small donkaments on PPNJ I could maybe take a crack.

Yep, DMed you, but also thank you for this, it was very useful in understanding the lay of the land.

My real thing is for home games I don't think I'd want to play bigger than like 8/16, just because of the hustle aspect. The risk of over-raking and so on makes me paranoid when I sit in home games, especially if I don't know anybody in it.

Yeah you’re not wrong

BUT... if you find a clean game with reasonable rake, that kind of game can be worth a lot, lot more than a mid-stakes game spread regularly in a casino. Typically the player rotation (as in, rotation over the months/years) in a “home” game is much slower than in casino games. Part of the reason for this is that when a soft game is spread in a public card room, it’s like dropping blood into the water. In a good “home” game, however, there are often many soft spots.

I'd play a mix game at mgm springfield whenever anyone wants. Prefer biggest stakes possible but even if it was 8/16ish I'd still play for fun, and happy to start the game hu/shorthanded to try and get it going.

Yeh, there is limit game action at Borgata on weekends. At Parx, there is more on weekend, but particularly on Tuesday. At Tuesday at Parx, there are also more mid-high stakes NLHE and PLO games than usual. I have heard about mixed games in back rooms of bars that have been going on for many years. It is likely that games have been going on for a long time, and haven't all moved to the casinos. This is true for limit games but also for some of the mid to high stakes big bet games. In "Rounders", they talked about how all the grinders in NYC would head to the Taj on the weekends. It was implied they made money off of wealthy New Yorkers during the week and tourists on weekends.