Think this is my least favorite line. If he has a bad badugi you are signaling him that he should break and he gets two draws at you or he might just fold.

But if he has you beat seems like you are setting yourself up to get c/r on turn

I'm folding that hand. Not sure about everyone else. I'm much more inclined to play a hand like that as a button open than SB because I will have position for my snow decisions.

This seems like elaborate fancy play. We have a good hand, I'm not sold that we need to flat 100% of our range vs semi agro tard here because he is going to soul read us oop.

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I don't think it's fancy play at all, our hand just isn't that strong.

But lol agro tard, the read we got was that a little while he had raised from the SB and drew one;.. it wasn't four. And he ended up checking a nine on the river.

We can still checkback turn after capping if we are concerned about being xred. I think there are theoretical problems with not capping here in position, even though it does not need to be 100% frequency.



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Offhand I don't see the theoretical problem with just calling the flop 3bet no matter what we have. If he has worse I believe we want him to remain pat and not break after we bloat with a four bet. And if has better, putting in more money drawing dead is never good. In what aspect are we supposed to be concerned?

How are we supposed to know when to checkback the turn? What information did we gather? Is this supposed to come from a live read?


I was planning on looking at this hand in more depth because it's very mathematical and I don't think the assumptions will be highly controversial.

Ignoring hero's exact hand, capping poses several tough problems to villain.

Should villain break medium and weak badugis?

And if both players pay after capping, what is his strategy on the turn ex. Bet call, check call, check raise and so on

But since we will sometimes want villain to break a better badugi and always want to get value if he does not have a badugi, I think it is more beneficial than not to cap with this hand some (more than 50%) of the time.


As for how often we should check back the turn, that is a very good question, I'm hesitant to answer

I guess my thoughts and concerns are the following, let's talk about a range of hands

On this particular hand or ones of similar value, it might be tough to put in 2.5 big bets and still have the best hand enough of the time and also may just walk into a c/r on turn. Perhaps we can exploit by folding to this c/r. Plus a flop cap may entice him to break and I'm not sure we want him to do that. And since we just called out of the BB we will have many 8 tris so this will be our type of holding much of the time.

With hands of weaker value where we want him to break, would a turn raise provide as much break equity?

And then with our stronger hands I think we want to wait to the turn to try and win a total of 3 big bets.

Hi there 2+2. Long time listener, first time caller in 2018.

3Bet pre vs sb I would advocate a mixed strategy of calls and raises. Why? (1) balance, you need to include some middling yet stronger than the median in your calling range. (2) you have position (3) Bigger pots result in a self fulfilling prophesy due to pot odds, smaller pots people play poorly - really awesome when you have position in a small pot. (3) Always keep 'em guessing (yes, that is expert poker coaching right there. lol!)

Turn - call, good spot due to range distribution. If you raise and he is dirty, he can maybe find a fold. If you raise and he is clean with a 9 or greater your giving him the ability to catch perfect.

River - Call if he bets. Bet if he checks. Fold if he check raises. If you held a slightly cleaner 8 I would freeze turn, raise river. I draw the line at 8762, if you held 8653 then I freeze and raise river.

PS: Sup Dynasty!