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Old 05-09-2020, 11:46 PM   #1
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badacey keep drawing?

5 handed badacey, part of a mix

Predraw: hj raises, I 3bet co with T(7532), hj calls
1st draw: 2/1
Flop: hj checks, I bet 9(7532), hj calls
2nd draw: 2/?

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Old 05-10-2020, 01:09 AM   #2
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Re: badacey keep drawing?

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Old 05-10-2020, 11:37 AM   #3
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Re: badacey keep drawing?

I prefer pat here

Haven't modeled it out and would defer to those who have but I'd be surprised if your equity was higher by drawing. And you can still value bet the river when you pat.

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Old 05-10-2020, 03:18 PM   #4
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Re: badacey keep drawing?

Looks good. For me pat is clear winner but D1 is still good, so if we want to randomize something like 3:1 pat:d1, would be reasonable.
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Old 05-11-2020, 12:43 AM   #5
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Re: badacey keep drawing?

you guys see that it's baDACEY, right? I would never in a million years pat this hand at this stage
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Old 05-11-2020, 01:03 AM   #6
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Re: badacey keep drawing?

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you guys see that it's baDACEY, right? I would never in a million years pat this hand at this stage
Oh whoops, I knew it was badacey but thought it was last draw lol

Yeah D1

Sorrys!

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Old 05-11-2020, 01:11 AM   #7
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Yes I do, you know we are breaking off quite a bit of A-5 equity right? Maybe around 20% on that side, which if thatís the case around 10% in final split pot equity. But thatís offset somewhat by a small increase in equity on Badugi side but that isnít that much.

Canít ignore implications of river betting but still feel we are okay as we can still value bet river and get calls when scooping
There are 2 draws to come, right? Or did i read this somehow completely wrong? This is a total no-brainer if i saw it right.
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Old 05-11-2020, 01:12 AM   #8
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There are 2 draws to come, right? Or did i read this somehow completely wrong? This is a total no-brainer if i saw it right.
Yup see my edit above!

I thought it was last draw. Definitely D1 on 2nd draw
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Old 05-11-2020, 04:26 PM   #9
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Re: badacey keep drawing?

Reading this again, i certainly misinterpreted the hand history.

With 2 draws left, patting is a clear mistake.
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Old 05-12-2020, 06:50 PM   #10
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Re: badacey keep drawing?

Always a shape when a beautiful badeucy hand goes to waste in badacey. I think badeucy this is a pretty clear pat. I think my logic was that with him d2 I could get him to fold some low equity if I patted but maybe I only want to pat here if he d3's if ever. The advantage to drawing is not only making a stronger low but also smoothing out the badugi. The 9/7 can't go for too much value in this game; I got pretty fortunate to not only end up scooping but get a river bet. I wonder if part of me got confused/wishful in what game we were playing when I patted this.
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Old 05-16-2020, 12:59 PM   #11
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Oh whoops, I knew it was badacey but thought it was last draw lol

Yeah D1

Sorrys!
WHEW! I was beginning to think I was playing this game WAY too tight.
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