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11-27-2018 , 10:43 PM
Part of a $50/100 live mix game, early in session, first time in game. Most players are pros or decent recreationals who play this mix 2x/week.

Predraw: HJ and CO limp, I raise (A24)78 on btn, bb, hj, co call
1st draw: 2/2/2/2
Flop: checks to me, I bet with (A24)58, all call
2nd draw: 1/2/2/1
Turn: checks to me, I bet with (A24)57, bb calls, hj folds, co raises, I call, bb calls
3rd draw: 1/1/0 (I pat)
River: checks to me

Questions:
- bet river?
- ok to pat 3rd draw?
- anything else you'd have done differently on any street?
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11-27-2018 , 11:07 PM
Looks good bud

Definitely have to pat turn as you have too much equity on the low side and may be drawing very slim on Badugi side

River is close. I believe you have the hijack beat for low 100% as he can’t count on you to bet for him. So depends on tendencies of BB in how loose he calls. Some make silly calls with no chance at either side given how this was played.

I think it’s real close, any good player in BB I just check
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11-27-2018 , 11:21 PM
Although on second thought maybe it’s a bet since HJ does not appear to have a hand he will 3bet a BB c/r as he probably would have just bet river
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11-28-2018 , 12:55 AM
River is close. I question the game description given the 4 way pot with hj and co limps, but whatever. Rest is definitely wp
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11-29-2018 , 12:49 AM
Co plays his hand like he has a strong badugi but he bricked the last draw for A-5, he will almost certainly just call (unless he's pretty tricky, but you didn't 3bet the turn so he shouldn't think your 5card hand is very strong). So I think it comes down to whether or not the BB will call you with 76 or worse (or a smooth 75). BB might also have a good badugi and call with a weak 5card (he drew 1). I would bet since your hand may be slightly underrepped-if 2 people drew in front of me here I would pat an 8 and maybe even a 9, depending on the opponents.
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11-29-2018 , 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by zoogenhiem
Part of a $50/100 live mix game, early in session, first time in game. Most players are pros or decent recreationals who play this mix 2x/week.

Predraw: HJ and CO limp, I raise (A24)78 on btn, bb, hj, co call
1st draw: 2/2/2/2
Flop: checks to me, I bet with (A24)58, all call
2nd draw: 1/2/2/1
Turn: checks to me, I bet with (A24)57, bb calls, hj folds, co raises, I call, bb calls
3rd draw: 1/1/0 (I pat)
River: checks to me

Questions:
- bet river?
- ok to pat 3rd draw?
- anything else you'd have done differently on any street?
After the turn and last draw, it appears CO has a decent badugi and BB believes he is drawing for a scoop if he hits gin and has decided he has enough two way equity to call the turn raise.

Given that co is never folding and likely has a badugi, and bb is still in the picture, I check river. It’s 50/100 and two guys have limped in front of us? I don’t think it could ever be correct to open limp from Hj in badacey. So if they’re loose passive, co turn Cr indicates a badug afterr he takes onei which we are dead to, bc we have to pat this hand. So I don’t like the risk/reward scenario of betting river against two players that should be drawing live to beat our A-5 and we r very likely dead to half the pot w no FE. If both villains were strong pros, you may be getting X-r on river and getting scooped. Maybe the passive tendencies of CO hedges it closer to a bet, but I’d still check. Very close imo but the last thing we want see is to face two cold after betting to try and get a worse a-5 to call to split a bet.

I think you made good drawing decisions in spots that can be tricky MW. Esp the decision to break the 85 w the strong tri after first draw. Nh and it doesn’t sound as bad of a game as you described so I’d play the 2x/wk it goes. Gl
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11-29-2018 , 04:52 PM
Regarding game strength, there was no one who seemed to be spewing it off, but I definitely felt I had an edge on the recs despite being pretty new to many of the games. The pros were pretty solid though.

Result:
I opted to bet based on my absolute hand strength, didn't really think too much about it. Both players called. Bb tables the effective nuts of (A245)6 to scoop. CO shows (A24)6A, so I get 3/4ers if bb doesn't improve there. Interesting to see that CO raised turn presumably with the (A24)6, so not a made badugi as most of you assumed. Thoughts on bb's play of just call river instead of raise? I think raise is better since he always gets the 1 more bet from me and may get 2 bets from the co, whereas if he just calls he may not even get a bet from the co.
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11-29-2018 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by zoogenhiem
Regarding game strength, there was no one who seemed to be spewing it off, but I definitely felt I had an edge on the recs despite being pretty new to many of the games. The pros were pretty solid though.

Result:
I opted to bet based on my absolute hand strength, didn't really think too much about it. Both players called. Bb tables the effective nuts of (A245)6 to scoop. CO shows (A24)6A, so I get 3/4ers if bb doesn't improve there. Interesting to see that CO raised turn presumably with the (A24)6, so not a made badugi as most of you assumed. Thoughts on bb's play of just call river instead of raise? I think raise is better since he always gets the 1 more bet from me and may get 2 bets from the co, whereas if he just calls he may not even get a bet from the co.
Just calling is awful there. The third player has repped a strong badugi and won't fold for 2 bets.
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11-29-2018 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RolldUpTrips
Just calling is awful there. The third player has repped a strong badugi and won't fold for 2 bets.
yeah betting the river is player dependent but that seems not great to not raise the river with a big hand and what appears to be a good dugi
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11-29-2018 , 08:22 PM
I have really good news for you: you're definitely not the worst player in this game
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11-29-2018 , 10:37 PM
Yeah up until the river, BB was the only one besides OP that hasn’t seemed to make a clear mistake . . . and then bb decides not to lead or x/r improvement to a 6/5. If I was bb I would prob be giving off so many tells after hitting gin in a decent sized 4 way pot that people might just fold before I even grabbed the chips. If u have the time it might be worth trying to get this game running more often gl
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11-29-2018 , 11:03 PM
Where’s this game at bro?
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11-29-2018 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MacauBound
Yeah up until the river, BB was the only one besides OP that hasn’t seemed to make a clear mistake . . . and then bb decides not to lead or x/r improvement to a 6/5. If I was bb I would prob be giving off so many tells after hitting gin in a decent sized 4 way pot that people might just fold before I even grabbed the chips. If u have the time it might be worth trying to get this game running more often gl
The hand shaking violently as you cut out chips....
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11-30-2018 , 12:30 AM
That’s exactly what I do lol. But my hands shake the worst at beginning of session if holding an iced coffee or its cold outside or in the room. So if it’s a new casino people are confused as to whether I’m nervous or having hand spasms for a medical reason. At least that’s my read
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11-30-2018 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Where’s this game at bro?
$50/100 is a weird limit...probably not hard to figure out what casino spreads it

You guys are making me want to get back in. It's a bit above my roll but probably more juicy than I gave it credit. I just need to learn these games. Gonna post some more hands from my session.
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