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Originally Posted by zoogenhiem
So the oop check/raise/pat to get villain to break better is one of the classic 2-7 plays but I've heard recently on a stream that it's not too in vogue anymore. I guess because people don't overbreak to this action anymore so it doesn't work as an exploit? I remember in dorm room games owning people with this move over and over. I didn't want to check/call just to draw to a 9. If I had an 8 draw I'd never do this.
What are you hoping someone will break? A ten? They will but they would also break that if you check/called and patted the J.
A nine? Possibly, but you block one nine. He won’t break anything better.
And you haven’t paired significantly along the way so his better hands are more likely. So a c/r is clearly out.
A check call to a nine feels bad because you are quite an underdog to win the pot and are only calling because of pot size.
It’s possible check/calling patting is better than c/c and drawing to a nine.
Btw I just read the spoiler and saw you chose to D1 to a nine after the reraise. That seems like the worst option of all. A real 3bet hand a nine is drawing dead, so you might as well just pat the jack if you decide not to fold. But uncertainty here is another reason why c/r was bad.