Hijack opens, I 3-bet 2-5-7-9-T. Folds to him, he calls.

1:2 I draw (257)49

He bets, I raise, he calls.

1:1 I draw (2457)A

Check/check(?)

1:1 I draw (2457)T

Check/bet/fold
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Should I bet here after he checks after the second draw? I would expect him to bet any hand hes patting and my draw is certainly better so is this lost value?

Second question is if he bets into me on the end, is this a good candidate for a bluff raise? He knows I had a premium draw going into the end, but two 9’s and two T’s are dead which are the hands he would presumably fold to a raise

Would catching a jack be better, or is this a spot where we shouldnt bluff raise at all?

Thanks



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the way i learned it, raising OTF in this type of situation is, well, fairly situational. you basically need a really good reason to be doing it HU with a D1 vs another apparent D1. like maybe you started 23422 and then D2 into 23477, so you know he's got reduced options for hitting a 2 or a 7.

since he didn't cap pre, that more than likely means he has a not so great D1 himself. 3457, maybe? 4578? i'm not experienced enough to say if that is reason enough to push whatever equity edge you have here as most of the time it's just a call OTF.

imo having a ten OTR is good enough to show down and a lot of players will bluff into a 1:1 river spot. my preference would be to not turn this hand into a bluff as you just fold out things you're beating anyway. additionally, if he did have one of those straight draw D1's to begin with and made a straight, he might feel obligated to bluff river since he can't win otherwise. and as you said 99/TT are gone, and 99 being gone will ostensibly replace some of his river leads with river bluffs.

all in all i'd just call riv.

I think I'd bet the turn. You can get him to break T's that he'd pat if it goes check/check. If you both draw 1 you've got the better draw so there's value in getting called as well.

River I don't think I'd bluff raise if he bets, would just call to bluff catch with a decent T.

Was the river bet for value or as a bluff? Seems pretty thin. Would anyone stay pat with the 9 after first draw?

The guy was always D1 so it’s a standard value bet

I would not 3b pre draw against a HJ range

The flop raise is probably losing because he was D1 heading into the draw. Even if we calc’d the equity and it came up >50% it doesn’t override the times he’s pat and 3bets.

Betting the turn with a D1 is something we should do sometimes as another poster mentioned as it could get him to break a ten and that’s very good. But doing it too often may lead to problems. Thus I usually reserve it for times I caught some pairs he may need. Good randomizer for not doing it too often and your equity is higher on that bet.

Your hand has way more value as a call. Not many (if any) players will bet a hand for value and then lay it down and you beat bluffs

Regarding the range of his original D1, he opened from the HJ so don’t think he has anything that rough, but no reads given. He can have plenty of 8642 type of stuff that isn’t going to always re-raise if he got repopped by the cutoff (OP did not say where he was.

so in villain's spot we don't want to be capping 8642 vs CO? because i think that's something i'd be doing without much thought, especially in my games where a D2 3b is fairly common.

You can and that has been my experience as well. But not all would. I do think 8652 is more likely than 8754 though

Most interesting spot for me is on the flop if we keep the 24579 or break the 9.

I also re-raise CO here v most HJ opens because people generally open a little too wide. I think the value of denying Blind equity outweigh the negative value of times we are re-raised by original raisers D1 but I am not 100% sure

Given that HJ did not 4! pre I like a turn bet as well.

right, i see.

so i think it is probably a mistake for me to automatically assign a straight draw d1 range to a player who isn't capping their D1's pre.

He should be betting/patting any 10’s after he sees me D1 on the turn though right? Jacks also?


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If I read the hand right you are IP

Pat the 9 imo.

When you hold the best D1 as is most certainly the case here you essentially have the same equity advantage drawing as you do patting thus I think breaking is the preferred play

makes sense

I wouldn’t usually 3b 2w7xx from CO/BTN vs HJ open. If we aren’t also 3b 246/258 type hands then I’d just cc and keep our predraw range a little wider. Hand plays good MW if the blinds come along - partly bc we are in position and partly bc of good implied odds if we bink.

I’d call flop and d1. If you’re going to raise, you should have a pat hand. Sometimes we will get 3b by an 8 or better and have inflated a pot where we have up to 8-12 outs twice. Most time we increase variance, push very small equity edge going into 2nd draw, and announce our hand as 2ww7x. Ive seen some aggro winners,w high snow frequency, raise/pat the 97, and get value on turn and river. But that line is not in my wheelhouse

I could see betting the turn UI in some spots and having a little FE, if the pre draw ranges had more rough combos (like BvB or BTN vs BB). But that wouldn’t normally be the case in a ring game vs HJ open, so I check here. Cuz we can also get xr.

This is not good candidate for bluff raise river. Sometimes we call and win. Nor would I do it with a J. If we’ve seen all the deuces, or more 7s/8s, those could be better bluff raises - but only if our hand wasn’t good enough to comfortably calldown with. T7 in 1:1 is too good of a hand to bluff with

Just one more comment on flatting vs reraising decision predraw

Even if he’s opening slightly wide from HJ I don’t think reraising has a value component and when we have BU it’s not buying us position.

Equity denial is important but in general don’t mind letting BB in with his rough hands not containing a 2. Imo he’s making a small mistake coming in with them. He’s coming with in prem D2 regardless so it’s a small subset of hands he can hold that would come in that we generally would not like.

When V is D1 and we don’t improve he subsidizes our calls when UI. When we improve to a D1 as we did here then we would raise to knock him out