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Badacey overplaying the 6/6? Badacey overplaying the 6/6?

01-03-2021 , 08:50 PM
Playing 22/44 limit mix with 5.50 ante, 7 handed. Btn is known to overplay mediocre pat hands in badeucey and badacey

Predraw: co raises, btn 3bets, I call sb with Q(9642), co and btn call
1st draw: 2/2/0
Flop: I check (9642)6, co checks, btn bets, I call, co raises, btn 3bets, I call, co 4bets (cap), btn calls, I call
2nd draw: 2/0/0
Turn: I check (6432)5, co bets, btn calls, I raise?

Result:
Spoiler:
I raised, co 4bet, btn folded. We both patted, I check/called, and lost to a 5/5
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01-03-2021 , 11:41 PM
Flop is terrible.
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01-03-2021 , 11:41 PM
Also I'm going to add that you have a strong tendency in your posts to focus on the wrong parts of the hands and not see the big picture mistakes you make.
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01-05-2021 , 01:29 AM
Turn xr is totally fine, especially given villain description.

Pretty happy to get 4 bets in here most of the time on 2nd and slowing down on 3rd.
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01-10-2021 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RolldUpTrips
Also I'm going to add that you have a strong tendency in your posts to focus on the wrong parts of the hands and not see the big picture mistakes you make.
I think it's a tendency of anyone posting/reviewing hands to over-focus on a particular tough decision and not on how they get there. Any time I post a hand, especially in games I don't know well, I'm more than happy to get a line check of all decisions, not necessarily just the one at the end I leave open with a question mark.
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01-10-2021 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RolldUpTrips
Flop is terrible.
Btn has severely capped their range by not 4betting pre, right? And especially given the read on button, they are very unlikely to have a 2-way made hand. More likely a bad low possibly with just a mediocre 3 card. So given it's a bloated pot with the antes 7 handed, I just don't see how we can fold flop, assuming that's what you're suggesting. Now if you were to say that we should only call flop with 3 unsuited to the wheel or a slightly better 6 and that this is a close fold, I would believe you, but would be a bit surprised.
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01-11-2021 , 01:00 PM
I think you need to review the action. What you've written doesn't add up. In your last post, you mention the button didn't 4-bet. But as posted originally, co 2-bet, button 3-bet, you and co called. Button can't 4-bet if he 3-bet. You also said, after button 3-bet, that you, co, and button called. How did button call if he had already 3-bet? These are just some simple mistakes in wording or something. But they make it harder for anybody to give you a valuable response. Just do an out-loud read-through (literally, speak it out-loud to yourself, at a conversational pace) of what you've written before hitting "post". That way you will avoid these distractions, and get more good feedback sooner. Cheers!
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01-11-2021 , 07:49 PM
I think the OP wording is fine, except for predraw, it should end with ", co calls" instead of "co and btn call".

Also, in the spoiler, it should be "co 3bet" instead of "co 4bet".
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02-25-2021 , 06:36 AM
While on the subject of wording, using the term "preflop" in describing action in a game where there is no flop is a little off-putting. Obviously you mean before the first draw: but why not just say that?

My view is that all the streets before the last one are folds. I don't care that btn has this wild image, he can sometimes wake up with a hand and you are also up against the co and out of position. As you ended up with this strong-to-marginal two way hand I think you have to call down.
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02-25-2021 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Owl4Ever
While on the subject of wording, using the term "preflop" in describing action in a game where there is no flop is a little off-putting. Obviously you mean before the first draw: but why not just say that?

My view is that all the streets before the last one are folds. I don't care that btn has this wild image, he can sometimes wake up with a hand and you are also up against the co and out of position. As you ended up with this strong-to-marginal two way hand I think you have to call down.
Preflop, flop, turn, and river are completely standard terms for describing the streets in triple draw games.
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02-26-2021 , 12:52 AM
once you get used to it, it's totally fine
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02-26-2021 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RolldUpTrips
Preflop, flop, turn, and river are completely standard terms for describing the streets in triple draw games.
Fair enough - doesn't make any sense though. There are perfectly good words to describe the betting streets in draw and stud games without using something that is potentially misleading
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02-26-2021 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Owl4Ever
Fair enough - doesn't make any sense though. There are perfectly good words to describe the betting streets in draw and stud games without using something that is potentially misleading
What other words would you use that are easier than just one word of flop, turn, and river? “After the 2nd draw” is a little wordy. Instead of preflop you can just use predraw or just simply pre though.

Stud is it’s own thing, usually it’s just 4th, 5th etc. Of course 7th is often called the river but that can’t be confusing.
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02-26-2021 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Owl4Ever
Fair enough - doesn't make any sense though. There are perfectly good words to describe the betting streets in draw and stud games without using something that is potentially misleading
It's not misleading. Like I said it's completely standard. Both games have 4 betting rounds and each word represents the same betting round in both.
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02-27-2021 , 08:08 PM
Also fwiw and you’ll see in the OP I say predraw bc I agree preflop sounds weird. But no alternative to flop turn and river. And in stud you’ll even hear 6th called the turn but never heard 5th get called the flop.
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03-01-2021 , 05:30 PM
i often wanna call 6th the turn in stud games
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