OK listen. I'm too hard on you. I'm sorry.


Forgive me.


I'm a doc by degree and only said it to prove that i might not be low intelligence.

But with that being said I am an MD and am just curious as to your degree if you have one?

No worries bud, went to Penn State and proud to say I graduated number one in Business School. Then went to work as an actuary and had to pass a set of vigorous examinations there. Nowadays I’m semi retired doing stuff I like...fitness field and some poker

What kind of medicine do you practice?

lol i don't. was not my cup of tea.

that is a really good background. like the other poster said you are probably smarter than me.

but i'm not gonna let you say you played 200hrs/mo 4tbls TD in america for months?

that has to be an exaggeration.

Oh sorry, I missed your clarification

Earlier this year I had several months online where I put in a ton of volume, games are pretty much going all the time and I was recuperating from adductor surgery, all games not just TD, not an exaggeration 50 hrs a week not that much when you can just sit the couch and grind on a mobile..,don’t think I said 4 tables though, that is not true

Fair enough Scotch.

To be honest I wish I never found this thread. I like you though. I'm sorry i'm harsh.

I played professionally for over a decade online but nowadays part time. I am in a career transition and have failed interviews simply because the person doesn't like poker. I used to put my lifetime winnings on my resume but that only leads to people calling me a liar or saying i didn't pay taxes (i paid 37% all in).

I'm a little upset with myself that I took the 'bait' about fixed limit players (where I made 90% of my $) are unintelligent. In retrospect I feel that that was ment to provoke others but I have never heard in my life that fixed limit players have a low IQ.

No hard feelings and i think this is a thread where we were both a little out of line

No worries bud! I was very harsh and apologized but also to a degree I think my points were misconstrued.

At the end of the day this is a very mathematical situation if we make a few simple assumptions given the D1 range of the CO, the cards you have seen, and the continuing range of the BB. Like if the BB folds out some of his made D1s which he most certainly should then it’s a huge win and even if he doesn’t he’s the one almost always taking the worst of it.

You could play 10 million hands at the table, but no way you will know your equity vs the CO range and value of equity denial without crunching some numbers. NL players analyze lots of different situations away from the table, this is no different.

Yeah I imagine poker is tough on a resume. One of the smartest guys I knew at my old job didn’t seem to get it and considered it negative. Maybe try and semi-bluff your way through that gap with something else...good luck!

Right. I realized you likely wrote some posts that can't be deleted that you feel bad about. Then i'm like well me too lol. Not that you feel that bad but u kno u kno u did not mean to come off in acertain way. anyways..

one of the huge problems with this hand is that OP chooses to flat which is wrong and then that opens debate further...

I don't like your CR line.

Should probably be reserved for strong pat hands. Also, you are not allowed to check raise in a 231 without a pat mathematically. but ok.

The requirements for being aggressive after the first draw imo are a leap from 2-0 since D1 guy could easily have a money 8632

Hey Brian I watched some of those big o vids and I liked them/learned something from them. I’m sure part of that had to w the fact that I’m terribad at the game, but also that you explained some concepts in detail that I’d not really considered.

There is a site called Kingsclubpkr that has much more 2-7/other mix game action than seals. It’s an invite only/club site w stakes from $1.50/$3 up to $30/60 fixed limit. But consider yourself invited if u want to play against high school drop outs, half-wits w useless degrees like myself, or savants that would give Doogie Howser a run for his money. There’s also plenty of big O action gl

Many of the sentiments I fully stand behind but yes could have been phrased somewhat more respectfully

I think the pre flat is fine vs CO. As far as the merits of the CR we cannot have a fruitful discussion without getting knee deep into the math, it’s impossible. Some fine gent added some really good stuff after my posts on the range of the D1 as well as the D3.

The overwhelming amount of the time I do have a pat here but as discussed many times this is a very nuanced situation being up against a CO open, pairing two 7s, and the BB drawing two which basically always is with a deuce. Had we not paired the 7 I’d be a caller also if the open came from EP/HJ.

No money to be won on that site, everyone is a genius

I really have been meaning to come back to this and look at the toy game where it's face-up 8643 vs 7432 oop at the point at which 7432 has c/red and knocked out the BB. I think from a raw theory of poker standpoint this is a wonderful situation to think about -- TBH, is there a bat signal for Sklansky, Malmuth et al? I just think coming up with an equilibrium GTO strategy for the snow-rate for the IP player is going to be interesting.

Is LETIGRA somebody who was previously on this thread and lost their account or something? I know I've seen DeathDonkey still active on threads in here, so I assume it's not him. Or do you guys know each other from a different site or something?

Anyways I think somebody else said it, the level of thought in this forum is extremely high, it's sad to lose anybody's insight due to a pissing match.

At that point both the 8643 and 7542 gained and are both happy. Somehow the debate got turned that the D1 is unhappy but that was never part of the argument. On the whole the C/R helps him slightly more than us because he can reraise pat although we are very close behind as the cards developed.

Letigra has always been Letigra

definitely two different people. the thread where he accuses DD of being a dick to him in aruba, wherein DD replies he's never been to aruba, is pretty amusing

Hey Kisada. That's super funny you remember that. I was so happy DD said it was not him cause i was like darn you are kinda mean.

Thanks Macau. Did you watch my baduci vid? it has no views but it's like a first page vid since there is no content on the internet on baduci. It's great imo, but my lowest viewed vid.

But here's the thing on the hand: A call and draw one can not be wrong ever ever ever. A check raise might make more. There is a whole wall of mathematics in this thead ok. But in practice you have to go with what MUST be right or can't be wrong b/c the swings and tension and tilt in this game is so crazy.

YOU and I mean YOU reading this right now probably think you would never take a draw 4. Yes you will.

I have not checked out the badeucy vid but plan to - I thought you'd only been putting out Big O content, so this will be a nice change of pace to watch, focusing on one game for the whole vid. I don't believe there are badeucy vids out there afaik; the RIO elite Hungarian coach put something out that glossed over a few non-standard mix games . . . for $100/mo tho. Thx for the heads up

I jumped out of me bed this morning cause I just realized something. I wanted to let this go, but there seems to be quite a few people who don't think I met death donkey in Aruba in 2007, including death donkey himself, which super interesting.

So I have no idea what to do in this triple draw hand.

I know with 100% certainty that I met death donkey in Aruba and I just texted Rick and am waiting for him to get back to me.

Who is Rick and why is he important? Oh no one much, he's just a poker player who I'm friends with who was with me when the two of us met death donkey in Aruba.

That's why I always ask death donkey if he was in the documentary, "Bet Raise Fold"

If he denies being in that movie we have what's called a psychiatric emergency.

Every time I watch bet raise fold I ALWAYS say I met that guy in Aruba.

Then he denies ever having been to Aruba which is my favorite part of the whole story.

More to follow... If Rick gets back to me and says I'm crazy, I will revert to I did not meet death donkey, but I have a witness so this is crazy.

might have missed it but i think he only had one introductory b2 vid, and nothing in depth. i'll have to check out the library again.

Yeah I was a little slow on that vid because I try to talk to two audiences.

YouTube has taken 500 views from me from people who were not engaged enough with my videos.

So skip to 13 min mark. I get pretty dark but i am super happy with the vid.

But yeah, we will focus on bigO moving forward..

Hi for starters there is no pissing match. I know I'm a top 5 triple draw player in the thread. Everyone can agree and I am cool with not being top 3.

I am BLUESTEAL/LETIGRA now but my most famous/infamous handle is STEWIE_GRIFF and yes it is a banned 2004 acct.

Stewie fits me more than Bluesteal if you know my personality.

Also in 2007 when I met death donkey in Aruba (which he denies) I was a professional narcissist. 29 is the perfect age to be a narcissist.

I'm sorry.

Again, I am sorry Scotch, and anyone else who I offended/hurt; I aplogize.

It took me sooooo long to realize what I have since people with my deuchebag condition can never accept it.

This thread is great because it started out as a triple draw debate, but then look how ugly you are brian!! You're gonna say it's okay and you forgive me, but you don't understand, it's the pattern that creates the disorder..

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But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

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That's you bri. Keep up the good work..

read this thread every time you think about attacking someone..

You have a big heart and personality Brian!

Yeah, there was a vid that was something along the lines of "non-standard games in cash mix around wsop", w either 1 or 2 parts. He's a tough player, who befuddled me often when I played him in ring games.

He's certainly looking at a lot of the math and his assumptions re ranges seem pretty good, but it's tough to listen to him bc he talks very slowly and goes over the maths very slowly. It's worth noting he knows at least 1 language more than I. For a mix player, I don't really think there's a ton of vid content out right now. After checking it out for a couple months, I don't see much reason to be a member there.

I'm not sure if a ton of mix video content is a good thing or not, in general. And every poker player will have a unique POV, depending on how poker fits into their life.

I do really like watching the PokerGo mix stuff w Ali Nejad, Randy Ohel, or Nick Schulman commentating. I think Danny Alei did some commentary as well and that was good, too. He has good reads on most of the players, from being around the game for so long. I bet his decisions end up being spot on, even if it takes him a bit to analyze the spot and make good laydowns, etc.

But yeah for $10/mo it's hard to pass up watching PokerGo stuff. There's just enough instruction, combined w the humor and banter of the players/commentators, that it's a great entertainment/learning balance imo

Where can we watch your badeucey video?

PokerGO is great stuff, Ali Nejad has an amazing sense of humor and when paired with Schulman it’s hilarious. Ohel and others add great strategic insight and you can obviously learn a lot especially when you focus on what players such as Seiver and Zack and others of their ilk are doing

not surprised he's a tough player, he really seems to know his stuff!

yeah he does a lot of mathwork in stud/s8/razz that's really good. i agree it was tough to listen to at first because he speaks slowly but i had to get used to it lol. but i think i've learned a lot and have figured out how to handle some situations better than before.

i agree that there probably isn't enough total mixed game content to keep a running sub. but possibly something worth dipping into once every few months or so to check the stuff out.