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2-7 NLSD OOP Decision at different stack depths 2-7 NLSD OOP Decision at different stack depths

05-07-2019 , 02:39 AM
Possibly very trivial question but I have not played NLSD in a while.

Bounty KO mtt on Pokerstars, currently 5 handed. HJ opens, I'm in BB with J6432 and 15bb stack ( I have a min bounty). Is this an easy jam/draw 1 with/without bounty format? Jam/pat? If we were much deeper i.e. 50bb, do we prefer to flat and draw 1 OOP or 3b/pat/draw 1? Game was pretty passive overall.

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05-07-2019 , 01:19 PM
With a straight draw your Jack is the rare combination of unbreakable and very smooth. I would jam, pat and be happy about it. Your hand is a favorite over any draw and beats worse Jacks, which is most of them. If Villain has a marginally better hand like a Ten, but has a decent redraw he will likely break it when you pat in front of him. You are only really in jeopardy from the best part of a late opener's range, Nines and better, which is a small number of hands.

Deeper I would still 3b/pat. Would have to be a lot deeper not to shove.
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05-07-2019 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by electrical
With a straight draw your Jack is the rare combination of unbreakable and very smooth. I would jam, pat and be happy about it. Your hand is a favorite over any draw and beats worse Jacks, which is most of them. If Villain has a marginally better hand like a Ten, but has a decent redraw he will likely break it when you pat in front of him. You are only really in jeopardy from the best part of a late opener's range, Nines and better, which is a small number of hands.

Deeper I would still 3b/pat. Would have to be a lot deeper not to shove.
Cheers. I didnt think the lone gutshot made it that unbreakable considering it is also a draw to a 7. If it were J7432 and we are deep, are we more tempted to break OOP? Since we can get called light if it goes 1,1 and we also have the opportunity to make a strong pat as opposed to having to check/decide or bet small/decide which would be my options with this hand if I decided to 3b/pat.

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05-07-2019 , 03:28 PM
A Jack that breaks to a Seven draw OOP is a good flat deeper because you can potentially play post with a very strong made hand and the open is small enough that surrendering UI to a pat isn't that painful. If the open is a significant portion of your stack you should still ship and likely break if called.

When arbitrarily deep you should mix 3b/shove/flat here for a lot of reasons but mainly so you have a stochastic range for each action. By that I mean you should not have the same type of hand (medium Jack, say) for any one action in each instance. If villain knows you're more likely to flat than 3b or shove with your draws he will have a wide range of pats and snows he can play, and you surrender a lot of equity, but if your shove can be either a pat hand or a good D1 then in order to call he just has to have or make a better hand than you, and sometimes he won't be able to call. If he does and you break you'll have lots of equity versus his pat hands and be way ahead of his draws, but in any case he won't be able to narrow your holding as well if you can do different things with hands that are descriptively similar (medium Jack, say).
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05-09-2019 , 10:46 PM
How much should we be 3 betting with strong draw 1's both as a jam for 15bb or deeper as a less-than-all-in? I'd think we'd raise 7432x no matter what. And even raising a lot of worse draws than that too.

I know in 2-7td (of course a very different game), we need to raise all d1's so our hand isn't too face up. How important is that in this game?
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05-10-2019 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by electrical
With a straight draw your Jack is the rare combination of unbreakable and very smooth. I would jam, pat and be happy about it. Your hand is a favorite over any draw and beats worse Jacks, which is most of them. If Villain has a marginally better hand like a Ten, but has a decent redraw he will likely break it when you pat in front of him.
He won't break T8+ without a straight draw. Our range has too many jacks and tens at 15BB
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05-15-2019 , 06:03 AM
OP doesn't mention open size. I assume it is close to 2xBB, but in SD cash many open old fashioned large raises. Kind of nasty if you jam and pat and he pats behind, and you are only a slight favorite if he draws. I would call and draw. You have good immediate odds to defend. You can make a big hand, even if you have a gutshot.
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