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Old 05-20-2020, 06:37 PM   #1
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$11 SCOOP Limit Badugi - 976A

PokerStars, $9.80 + $1.20 - Badugi Limit - 2,000/4,000 - 8 players
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UTG: 126,450 (32 bb)
UTG+1: 145,200 (36 bb)
MP (Hero): 134,825 (34 bb)
MP+1: 121,700 (30 bb)
CO: 54,775 (14 bb)
BU: 102,650 (26 bb)
SB: 160,900 (40 bb)
BB: 31,100 (8 bb)

Deal: (6,000) Hero is MP with 6 A 9 7
UTG raises to 8,000, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to 12,000, 5 players fold, UTG calls 4,000

Draw One: (30,000) 6 A 9 7 (2 players)
UTG draws 1, MP (Hero) stands pat
UTG checks, Hero bets 4,000, UTG raises to 8,000, Hero calls 4,000

Draw Two: (46,000) 6 A 9 7 (2 players)
UTG stands pat, MP (Hero) stands pat
UTG bets 8,000, Hero calls 8,000

Draw Three: (62,000) 6 A 9 7 (2 players)
UTG stands pat, MP (Hero) stands pat
UTG bets 8,000, Hero calls 8,000
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Old 05-20-2020, 08:47 PM   #2
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Re: $11 SCOOP Limit Badugi - 976A

hmm, bit of a tough one


average D1 into badugi is around an 8 or so. so based off that, on average it's ahead of this hand.

that said it's a hand you wanna consider where you're at in your own range. out of all the pats pre you would play this way, how high does A679 fall into that range? i think i'd have a J-dugi here at worst, and A679 is considerably better than that. and since i'm not at the bottom of my range i'd be reluctant to fold.

that said this is 8-handed badugi, so i'm sure my own range construction is distorted. i think i just call down.
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Old 05-20-2020, 10:31 PM   #3
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Re: $11 SCOOP Limit Badugi - 976A

Seems alright to me
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Old 05-21-2020, 03:02 AM   #4
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Re: $11 SCOOP Limit Badugi - 976A

Hand is way too high up in a range to fold and actually beats tens. Clear calldown.
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Old 05-21-2020, 10:30 AM   #5
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Re: $11 SCOOP Limit Badugi - 976A

alrightythen
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Old 05-21-2020, 02:34 PM   #6
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Re: $11 SCOOP Limit Badugi - 976A

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Hand is way too high up in a range to fold and actually beats tens. Clear calldown.
curious: does this game being 8-handed have much influence in any decisions we're making?

basically only if we're actually playing a drawing hand, i'm thinking?
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Old 05-21-2020, 06:32 PM   #7
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Re: $11 SCOOP Limit Badugi - 976A

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curious: does this game being 8-handed have much influence in any decisions we're making?

basically only if we're actually playing a drawing hand, i'm thinking?
For the most part, UTG and UTG+1 just have to be tighter than UTG in a 6max game and the rest of the positions can be treated as they would in 6max. There's obviously a slight selection bias in folded cards altering the remaining, but nowhere as near as much of one as in, say, 2-7 or even O8.
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:32 PM   #8
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Re: $11 SCOOP Limit Badugi - 976A

gotcha, thanks!
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Old 05-27-2020, 02:44 PM   #9
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Re: $11 SCOOP Limit Badugi - 976A

Is it accurate to say that villain will have very few snows here? Utg 8 handed range should be quite strong and seems like a waste to turn a strong 3 card into a snow.

I think it does come down to how much worse for value villain is playing this way. I do think villain can have smooth Ts and maybe even some Js, although the latter may check river. I think I'm calling down any 9 here though based on instinct (then again my badugi instincts are often wrong)
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Old 05-27-2020, 07:16 PM   #10
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Re: $11 SCOOP Limit Badugi - 976A

villain probably won't have a lot of snows.

but he's gonna have T/J-dugis which he believes will be ahead of hero's range (when he really has a 9), which is the most important factor here
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