Here is my question to all. What do you think of the RB on this site? Not the step by step calculation of it, but the way you generate rake.

I mean you only actually get to collect RB when u win the Pot. But you still contribute rake to the pot when you lose, but do not collect your RB%.

How does everyone feel about this? I mean you do get double the RB when u win the pot with this system then you would with sites that split it. But you make 0% when you lose the pot. And i think for most players there going to missing out on a ton of rb. with this set up.

IMO: You should collect what you contribute to the rake, win or lose. i.e you contribute $1 in rake and have 50% rake back then you should collect $0.50 in rb win or lose. I mean Rake is a set amount or % however you want to look at it, and it does not fluctuate, and both players contribute equally to it. So both players should collect what they are owed in rb in every pot that rake is taken, win or lose.

Thoughts/opinions.

To be clear, I don't play here, but I've personally always felt RB should be deducted from the winner of the pot, because s/he's the one who pays the rake. If two players each, put in $2 into the pot, in a rakeless game, the winner would win $2 and the loser would lose $2. In a raked game, the loser still loses $2 but the winner now only wins $1.8 (or whatever). So who's paying the rake?

WoW I did not know they had there rb set up like this,
I think the best way would be the most common way. If yo use the flop and contributed to pot, you should get a percentage.

That must win the pot rb deal makes no sense IMO.

Maybe this is why I grind all day and rake almost fack all, cause I play soo bad

Boooo!

Rake is attributed to the player who actually paid it. It's logical and fair. I hope it stays forever.

+1

Yep I know it seems weird at first but this really is the mosty fair and logical way.

This is the one site that got it right from the start.

While I actually think the weighted contribution system is a fair one, I'm all for a system which only rewards the winner of the hand. I think the quality of the game benefits when everyone is only playing to win (I don't think this has always been the case under the dealt system, where players benefit from playing as many hands as possible as cheaply as possible).

HPP got it right.

WTA is the best rake system, mass multitablnig nits like dealt. Those asking for WC clearly know nothing or are mega fish.

I think this is the best ever. Its not possible for a nit to get a ton of rakeback when the rest of the table plays loose. Also, as a winning player I win more pots (or larger pots) than the average player, so I expect to get a bit more in RB if I get to keep the rakeback from those pots.

I.e. say a HU game where you win win 20 pots and your opponent wins 15 pots - he'll get the rakeback from the 15 pots while you get 20 pots of rakeback even though you both raked equal amounts... sweet! I honestly can't understand why people would complain about this. Even if you were slightly losing the RB from an contributed system wouldn't be all that much more, and if your goal is to become a winning player you'll get more when that happens.

The downside is that in side pots the rake calculation would be quite difficult, wouldn't it? I think I remember reading that then its averaged from the different pots, but if a HP rep reads this maybe they can clarify.

I.e. shortstacker is AI PF with 5 BB, 3 players to the flop. Flop is 15BB and the other two players have 85BB left and go all in. Now the main pot (15BB) wouldn't cap the rake, so if the shortie wins it will the rest of the rake then be taken from who wins the main pot?

We will take 5 % of the Pot(s) if there is a flop and Pot >= € 0.2.
Round floor € 0.01 intervals
Maximum rake 2 players: 1*BB OR €0.5 whatever is lowest
Maximum rake 3-5 players: 5*BB OR €1.5 whatever is lowest
Maximum rake 6-9 players: 10*BB OR €3 whatever is lowest

If there are Side Pots the amount shall be taken proportionally from all Pots

The player winning the hand and therefore paying the rake is getting the full amount. In our opinion this is the fairest solution, as the player winning the pot is the one actually paying the rake out of his winnings.

If there are split pots each player is credited with rake according to what he paid out of the pot he won.

So in your example ‘shortie’ will be credited with the rake deducted from his 15BB win. The other players will be credited with the rake deducted from their respective pot(s).

Best Regards,
Jonas

This is almost perfect - I think the rake caps are a little high. If it were changed to a dollar equivalent over the euro denominations there then everything you have done here is fantastic.

And that´s why you should invest heavily to get players at the moment.

The potential is huge, if you fix all the bugs and so on.

gl!

Gonna pass on your feedback - thank you.

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Should make it the same for SNGs.