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Old 12-17-2018, 07:03 PM   #76
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Re: WWE TLC 2018 (7 p.m. ET start)

Speaking of that good Bryan/AJ match, I just wanna mention the hilarious exchange between Renee and Corey.

Renee on Bryan turning heel: "Bryan used to not eat meat."
Corey: "He still doesn't eat meat."

Imagine a talking point of turning heel is whether someone's still a vegan or not. It was a great exchange which emphasizes how awful Renee is on commentary.

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Old 12-17-2018, 07:11 PM   #77
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Re: WWE TLC 2018 (7 p.m. ET start)

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Fell asleep early in the main last night, woke up to watch it in full this morning, and I wasn't a fan. Fell into lots of the same traps as other TLC matches where the psychology ends up being garbage because they have to slowly and inorganically set up table and ladder spots that have no apparent intention toward actually trying to win the match. Feel like I would have been much more likely to enjoy those three facing off in a regular triple threat than a TLC.
Just watched the main event. I see what you're saying, but I don't think it was quite that bad.

The three ladies worked their asses off. Hope a women's match main events Wrestlemania 2019. The storyline is there for it.
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Old 12-17-2018, 07:54 PM   #78
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Doesn't Charlotte v Ronda seem like the most likely WM main event option?
I don't think so, just because they've done it before (granted, without a clean finish). Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I feel like Becky vs. Ronda is a lock in some form, with a pretty good chance of Charlotte being added. I don't see any reason for Becky to drop her title with that finish other than her going after Ronda in some capacity.
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Old 12-17-2018, 08:11 PM   #79
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Re: WWE TLC 2018 (7 p.m. ET start)

I'm surprised most of you seem pretty down with that PPV I thought it was good overall.

I also think that Charlotte v Ronda is the more likely WM match. They can really push the whole Rick Flair thing that makes Charlotte much more marketable. Big it up as a whole UFC vs wrestling dynasty type thing and ultimately Charlotte giving Ronda her first loss and getting the title seems like the plan.

I think I'd rather see the triple threat out of all options, then Becky Ronda then Charlotte Ronda but the good thing is currently i'd be hype to see any of them. Let's just hope they keep it going, the women's division could be seriously great.
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Old 12-17-2018, 08:25 PM   #80
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Re: WWE TLC 2018 (7 p.m. ET start)

Overall I think it was alright. First 2.5 hours dragged with exception of 3-way tag then we got Ronda, AJ/Bryan, and TLC but Seth/Dean was sprinkled in there too. I'd give this ppv something like a 5/10. Some of my negative toward it is how long it was. 3 hours to get to the Seth/Dean match which was awful is
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Old 12-17-2018, 10:13 PM   #81
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Just watched the main event. I see what you're saying, but I don't think it was quite that bad.

The three ladies worked their asses off. Hope a women's match main events Wrestlemania 2019. The storyline is there for it.
No question they worked their asses off. It was as good as lots of TLC matches. I think it's a difficult match to do well from a psychology standpoint. Others are pretty forgiving of spotfests and I tend to be pretty tough on them.

FWIW I was careful not to suggest that it was objectively bad since I know that this type of match does it for lots of people, hence "wasn't a fan" rather than "sucked."
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Old 12-17-2018, 10:18 PM   #82
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Re: WWE TLC 2018 (7 p.m. ET start)

I really do think the gold standard for ladder matches is still Shawn/Razor from WM X. Obviously the spots in that one are a lot less eye-popping than what we see today, but the psychology was ****ing A+ and that's why that match still holds up as a five-star classic. I wish wrestlers aspired to that level of psychology in ladder matches.
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Old 12-18-2018, 02:54 AM   #83
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Mine is Benoit and Jericho because it was a good psychological match that happens to have a ladder instead of a spotfest. Shawn/Razor obviously up there
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