CM Punk (c) vs. The Miz vs. Alberto Del Rio
TLC match for WWE Championship

Mark Henry (c) vs. Big Show
Chairs match for the World Heavyweight Championship

Triple H vs. Kevin Nash
TLC match with a sledgehammer suspended over the ring

Randy Orton vs Wade Barrett
Tables match

Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. Zack Ryder
Singles match for the WWE United States Championship

Cody Rhodes (c) vs Booker T
For the WWE Intercontinental Championship

Who ya got?

CM Punk - makes zero sense to take the belt off him
Mark Henry - makes zero sense to take the belt off him
HHH - unless Nash PowerBotches him into a coma
Orton - Orton has taken a lot of losses recently, beating the Barrage while making him look strong is a good outcome
Ryder - wwwyki
Cody - srsly, they aren't putting Booker T over Cody ever

no diva match?

amp - i posted this in the other thread, but what do you think of my conspiracy theory about show/bryan at wm?

anyway, i dont think there are any out and out locks here, but:

cm punk 98%
mark henry 92%
triple h 75%
orton/barrett 50% (i just dont know where this is going)
ziggler 80% (he isnt ready for a push at the championship yet, there is a logjam of heels right now)
rhodes 95%

what is the theory?

I'm also confused as to what the hell they're going to do with Cena. Surely they're not just gonna leave him off the PPV all together?

Cena could accompany Ryder to the ring maybe?

i think its unlikely to happen, but i think they are leaving open as a possibility strapping show and turning bryan heel for the whc match at wm 27

somewhat similar to rey/kane last year

I think it's best until after Smackdown on Friday to throw this thread up, as sometimes the spoilers can inadvertantly be used in people's reasonings behind the outcome of the matches.

I'm not complaining, though.

Also, I think this PPV is pretty predictable, but it's going to be a huge spotfest which I enjoy.

I heard that Kevin Nash is going to bust out his first-ever hurracanrana. That alone should make it worth watching.

I dont think that any tlc matches after hardy/dudley/edge n cristian stole the show, that original match still remains epic

That's what I'm most excited to see for this ppv. I hope they just have him come out and cut a promo asking why Kane attacked him, then Kane comes out and attacks him again. It allows both guys to be on the ppv, keeps the fued going, and isn't just a match thrown on the card with almost no build.

must have missed the 4-way on SD! that is known as TLC III

Need to edit the OP, the 3 way is a triple threat TLC match, not a TLC match.

I'm curious as to whether they're gonna aim Kane purely at Cena or do what they did when he first arrived and just have him beat the crap out of a bunch of people.

Cena not on the card would be odd. I figure using him in Ryder's corner is the logical thing but its kinda risky given Cena is basically a tweener at this point and Ryder's core fans tend to be ones who arent Cena fans.

Ill amend if Smackdown changes anything, but here is how i see it:

Punk over ADR and Miz is a lock. There is zero chance they are going to change the belt onto ADR at this point and i doubt they will change the belt before WM now so that locks Punk into wins at TLC, Royal Rumble and Elimination Chamber. I think the story to come from this match will define a lot of Raw through to WM. I can easily see either Miz or ADR face/tween turning to set up a match between them at WM, or if not i figure ADR takes the 3 and this opens the door for Miz to get the Royal Rumble WWE title match, but with the second day of 2012 2 weeks and a day after i think the title is built around whoever that is and how they are going to play the return. I think a pinfall in a TLC is pretty blueboyaidsy, but it should easily be the match of the night.

Henry over Show is almost a lock. They could heel turn Bryan which obviously means a face goes over Henry and who better but Big Slow at this point. But i think they are still building Bryan as a face via Cole and i still figure Henry is holding till WM before going under Bryan to fully legitimise him with Big Slow in Bryan's corner to help get him over. Being a chairs match there are a bunch of ways the MITB cash in could happen and i figure that is where the majority of suspension will come from as its all but certain the winner gets a beatdown from the loser imo.

Triple H vs. Kevin Nash
TLC match with a sledgehammer suspended over the ring is like the dumbest thing ever. This entire match will probably just be a future botchamania. I dont care who wins or loses, but i guess HHH goes over, probably after taking 159 sledgehammer shots to the face cos he just doenst give a **** anymore about even pretending to be a human being capable of being beaten. After winning he probably cashes in his HHH in the bank to become the new interim Raw GM despite still being the CEO of the company. Like seriously, in canon, the CEO of the company is fighting some employee because he was almost murdered by the employee with a sledgehammer. Worst writing ever.

Randy Orton vs Wade Barrett
The Barrett Barrage has to continue, surely? Orton has been the legit main event star of 2011, he built Christian up, he has put over Cody and Ziggler and now he is doing the same to Barrett imo. Not clean, but WWE gonna WWE. Christian with some kind of interference or something like that happens imo. Fwiw i dont see the point of Orton going over, but right now i dont see where Orton fits onto the WM card either. He sticks out like a sore thumb as every other top talent has a pretty clear (if not confirmed) matchup at WM at this point. Fighting Kane? Kane run in to save Barrett so finally we get closure on why Nexus attacked Taker to help Kane beat him in the buried alive match?

Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. Zack Ryder
Ziggler shouldnt be going under Ryder, mainly because what does he do at WM if not job the title to Ryder in preparation for a main event push? Also Ryder is a fraction of the quality of Ziggler and one decent way to bury the already buried prop that is the US title is to put it on Ryder at this point. He lost to Ziggler a month or two back when Ziggler already worked a tag match directly before it and he didnt even win his title shot legit cos it was gifted to him by Cena. And its still ******ed he pinned ****ing Mark Henry to get a shot at Ziggler.

Oh, and again, proof if ever it was needed that Smackdown writers are a billion times better than Raw writers.

Raw Creative: Hey guys, we need to borrow Mark Henry for Raw this Monday
Smackdown Creative: Sure, what is he doing, will we need to write around it or is it a throwaway holonaminitplaya tag match with Cena and Ryder or something like that
Raw Creative: Wow, great minds think alike, it does involve Cena and Ryder. We are going to have the World Heavyweight Champion easily dominate Ryder, then get hit by one move from Cean, then have Ryder pin him for a 3 count clean as it is a no DQ match
Smackdown Creative: You guys are the ****ing worst

Cody Rhodes (c) vs Booker T
Booker wont go over, this is almost as much a lock as the Punk match. Booker going over achieves nothing, it devalues the IC title (which is pretty devalued already) and it stalls the Cody push. Im hoping Cody goes over clean in a nice little match then he beats down Booker when Bryan gets the run in to save him. They need to start doing this stuff to get the dragon over and it mirrors Booker running in to save him on Monday.

Edit, this would be the perfect undercard set up to then have Show go over Henry, then Henry beat him down, again Bryan runs in and the crowd goes wild then he cashes in for a mega heel turn and newwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwww WHC.

To emphasise this in another post, in a TLC match they have a ****load of weapons around the ring, so the Nash Hunter match will need a spot where they climb a weapon, hoping not to get hit by a weapon whilst climbing the weapon in order to retrieve a weapon that they can only use as a weapon but almost certainly will be taken off them by the other person using a weapon to block their weapon and take the weapon and use it as a weapon on them to win via weaponfall. All whilst hoping not to fall through various weapons set up around the floor which is also basically a weapon.

When is Christian coming back? Also how in the hell is Bryan not on this card. He is supposed to main event WM but they dont build him up on PPVs

I dont think they have announced a return, he got injured Nov 9th with some kind of ankle sprain that may be healed already with the Slammy appearance being a tease for the PPV. Id assume he is going to pull the too injured to wrestle gimmick for a while yet which was a kayfabe creation over the Big Slow injuring his neck story then by freak coincidence he legit injured his ankle in Europe.

I 100% agree Bryan needs to be on the PPVs from now until WM. Its hard for a crowd to back a guy they never see on TV and most the time he loses when he does. Why is it that undercard faces never win, but main event faces never lose? Just another weird WWE booking thing.

They def need to give Bryan a long stint in the Rumble

CM Punk (c) vs. The Miz vs. Alberto Del Rio
I can't imagine they're taking the belt off of Punk here, especially in a situation where they're setting him up against two heels. Since they're turning him into another Cena, it's only right that he be indoctrinated into the club and squash two other main eventers at the same time.

Mark Henry (c) vs. Big Show
I again think there's a chance of what I was discussing for Survivor Series, where Big Show goes over and then Bryan cashes in, turns heel, and takes the belt. I just don't know how they can go forward with D-Bryan as the face underdog story at WM when he gets zero reaction in too many cities.

But otherwise, Mark Henry just goes over and keeps the belt. Ho hum.

Triple H vs. Kevin Nash
This is a little tough to predict given that we don't know if the company has any long-term plans to keep Nash around. This could be the blowoff match if they want to pull the plug (please please please), in which case HHH is a lock, but if they want to extend the feud I think they would have to have Nash win somehow.

Given HHH's burial of Taker this past week, they're probably looking ahead at putting him in a program with Taker at Mania, meaning they might as well blow off this HHH/Nash business now. But maybe they would do that at the Rumble instead, since we know how hugely over Nash is at Royal Rumbles.

Gut feeling says Nash wins this round and HHH goes back over him at the Rumble.

Randy Orton vs Wade Barrett
Coin flip. I think you can put Barrett over again here without killing Orton too much, but Orton is losing a lot lately as amp mentioned. I think you put Barrett over here, but definitely not cleanly.

Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. Zack Ryder
They sure have booked this like they're putting the strap on Ryder, but I hope I'm wrong.

Cody Rhodes (c) vs Booker T
Cody certainly retains. I actually think this could be a really solid match.

I think the WWE has tried to put Bryan over, though there have been obvious flaws in how they've done it, and I do think the heel turn possibility remains very real.

Lol at Orton losing a lot. Unless ive forgotten one he has literally lost two matches since the Henry feud, neither clean.

Well "since the Henry feud" is a generous bit of framing. Didn't Henry go over him twice? That feud was not long ago at all. And Ziggler has pinned him recently, and Barrett's win over him wasn't outright clean I guess but it was damn close. In terms of WWE booking and the marks that they cater to, yes Orton has lost a lot recently. In terms of predicting the event, it's a very reasonable consideration.

Orton also put Cody and Barrett over at SS.

Forgot that he took a 3 on one loss at SS

But yeah, even including Christian, since being drafted to Smackdown (in April iirc) he has probably lost a single figure number of matches, not including holonaminitplaya tag matches where his teammate got pinned. I used the time frame of "since Henry" as we are talking about recently. Throw in summerslam and maybe i forgot a Ziggler win that is still only four matches since Henry, all of which were multiple people vs him or via distraction kinda stuff.

But yeah, i agree given they gave Cena the WWE title for a few weeks "to keep him looking strong" they may view it that way cos WWE creative is mostly brain dead.