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D Bryan and S Rollins made me post about wrestling again. Holy crap that was an awesome TV match and the crowd was super fired up.

Amazing to think people worried that Bryan wouldnt get over in the WWE when he first signed. He is clearly about to get another top of the card run, too.

Rollins was also great, totally agree. The funny thing is this was basically a pedestrian stroll for the two of them considering their history.

SHIELD is the best thing going right now, it alone has made me watch wrestling again. On delay. So I can skip the ****e.

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06-12-2013 , 10:33 AM

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Orton turning at Payback is greater than 90% imo. Its all set up against Bryan who is the most over guy in the company.

It makes sense judging how much the crowd are behind Bryan. Pretty cool seeing him have the whole arena in the palm of his hand.

want to put small bet on whether orton turns at payback? Or by end of Raw next night

If its questionable then it can just be void. Thread can decide if there is any debate.

10$ 20$? just for the sweat really lol . I would actually pay attention to Orton for once

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06-12-2013 , 05:50 PM

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Sure why not, $20 transfer on Stars?

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06-12-2013 , 07:28 PM

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Sure why not, $20 transfer on Stars?

yeah stars, wwe betting is fun lol. u want to clarify terms. i think its almost def void if we just do payback since he has rko'd bryan already and isnt heel. as he might rko him again but doubt he can actually turn fully on the night.

Least if we include raw its gonna be more clear whether we are supposed to boo or cheer.

Depending on results we can make bet more long term if it is void/unclear/tweener situation.

Anyone else want to bet on other nonsense for payback other than obv match results? im degen n looking for reasons to watch.

Ie. Whether cena wins tables or the lumberjack as its clearly gonna go to all 3 stages. may need odds on that one

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06-12-2013 , 08:27 PM

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watching main event for the first time ever. they just played a long video package promoting punk's return at payback, so i'd be really surprised at this point if all of this has been a ruse.

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06-12-2013 , 08:32 PM

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watching main event for the first time ever. they just played a long video package promoting punk's return at payback, so i'd be really surprised at this point if all of this has been a ruse.

Yeah I'm leaning more on the side of Punk showing up now. I would love if they swerved us and Lesnar came out. I don't think Lesnar and Jericho have ever had a match together so that would be pretty cool to see.

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06-12-2013 , 10:31 PM

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I still think something weird is going to happen. and this won't be a normal comeback. though i do believe he is showing up now

I'm guessing this will sell way more by announcing punk in chicago in advance, but im a sucker for returns. and a punk in home town unannounced pop would have been sick

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06-12-2013 , 10:33 PM

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I mean it's an absence of less than 90 days for Punk and a return at a minor PPV. I think WWE is doing this right (as long as it isn't a bait-and-switch).

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06-12-2013 , 10:54 PM

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What are the cliffs on the Punk story?

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06-12-2013 , 10:56 PM

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What are the cliffs on the Punk story?

Nothing good imo (assuming you mean his ppv setup with Jericho)

Jericho cuts a promo about how Punk cannot sit on the sidelines and still claim he is the best in the world. Perhaps the most hypocritical promo in the history of WWE. He sets up a match with Heyman. Punk has yet to appear.

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06-13-2013 , 03:25 AM

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Ok, if Orton RKO's Bryan or turns on him in anyway it is considered a full heel turn, whether during or after the match.

Either RAW or Payback, whatever.

Fair enough?

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06-13-2013 , 05:50 AM

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Eh? by that logic he is already heel? he just did that on smackdown last week.

during the match

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06-13-2013 , 06:02 AM

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bryan might be the single most over guy in WWE right now

I was trying to figure if it was just a good crowd or if he really is more over than anyone else in the company right now.

At least they are letting him show how good he is, great match with Rollins.

I always thought that people didn't use the surfboard enough these days, was cool to see them both do it.

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06-13-2013 , 09:37 AM

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Would LOL hard if Orton turns by punting Bryan and putting him out of action in kayfabe for a few months

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06-13-2013 , 01:14 PM

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Eh? by that logic he is already heel? he just did that on smackdown last week.

during the match

It doesn't matter if its during the match or after the match, it should be considered a heel turn. If he walks away and lets Bryan get screwed that should be considered a heel turn. Anyway, there are enough people in this forum and there will be in the Payback thread to vouch for whether or not he turned heel, ok?

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06-13-2013 , 01:45 PM

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Is anyone here going to Payback? Anyone have experience with buying scalped PPV tickets at the venue for face value?

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06-13-2013 , 02:42 PM

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I quit watching Raw for about 2 years and must have missed these kinds of things. If only SCSA knee's weren't blown out, we might could get a true "once in a lifetime" match with Punk.

http://youtu.be/CTeAo0BcnSA

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06-13-2013 , 03:53 PM

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As much as I'd like to see Austin in the ring one more time, I'd hate to see the promos the new era would force on him. I'd rather he stays away and doesn't tarnish his legacy unlike another attitude era legend.

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06-13-2013 , 10:37 PM

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If your talking about the Rock, he did it to himself.

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06-13-2013 , 10:48 PM

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If your talking about the Rock, he did it to himself.

Yup.

They've still allowed Rocky to use cuss words pretty liberally, so it's not the PG stuff constraining him. Would sure like to think that Austin might take more pride in his work if he returned for one last feud...if nothing else, he certainly couldn't take any less pride in it than Rocky does.

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06-13-2013 , 11:57 PM

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I really don't want to see Austin return for any matches.

I'd rather see him come back and be some kind of enforcer type. Let him come in and beat the hell out of people, tell them that's what they get for doing "X" and then leave for a few weeks. Rinse and repeat a few times each year.

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06-14-2013 , 01:09 AM

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ill be round on sunday and we can iron out details. im fine with asking thread but i feel like raw needs to be included. not just him walking out , leaving bryan. Then defeating Damien Sandow the next night on raw, thats not a heel turn.

I wouldn't be being so pinicky about this had you not said a heel turn is defined as an RKO during match. since he has already done this 10 days ago to bryan. and im fairly sure he wasnt supposed to be boo'd on his since then.

Im happy to pay you if he is considered heel by Raw kick off the next night

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06-14-2013 , 03:06 AM

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I'd say if Borton turns at the PPV then he'll cut some kind of promo on RAW saying why he did it.

If he's not turning until RAW then he'll do something at the PPV to set it up.

It should be a no brainer for you 2(or all the other reg posters) to decide if there was a legit turn.

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06-14-2013 , 08:21 AM

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This.

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06-14-2013 , 04:44 PM

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What happens if he clearly turns but then they change their minds and ignore it or turn him back on Raw? (That is basically what happened last week if you watched Smackdown...)

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