Bork never loses for years. Goldielocks comes in and whips his ass twice easy, then Bork is invincible again.

Also, the obvious retort-- it's not real sports, where what you're describing does in fact sometimes happen. In modern pro wrestling, it never happens. Except this one time for no reason except to hot shot interest for two shows and then pretend it didn't happen.

But he didn't whip his ass easily twice. He won in a fluke win the first time and eliminated him from the rumble the second time.

As for your not real sports point: yeah that's true it is a work, but if you don't suspend disbelief at least a little while watching, then why are you wasting your time. Yes, you are correct that it doesn't happen in modern pro wrestling, so does that mean you are satisfied with just the same old crap every show? That makes absolutely no sense to me. If I felt like I knew exactly what was going to happen every time I turned on a wrestling show, then I would have stopped watching a long time ago. But that is just me

How was the first win a "fluke win"? Just because it happened quickly?

Oh holy ****, what the **** was he thinking?

Goldberg hit him with a spear when Brock wasn't looking and Lesnar underestimated him in general. Depends how you define fluke I guess, but it was a lot different than Goldberg kicking out of F-5s and besting him in a more drawn-out match.

The Goldberg thing didn't really bother me tbh. You have to remember that in kayfabe Goldberg is like a wrestling god who literally never lost clean in his career (I think?), so it's not unreasonable for him to be a threat to Brock. It helped that Goldberg showed up in really good shape, committed to his promos, and finally put him over big at Mania in a match that was pretty fun for what it was.

Pretty loose use of the word fluke, it was a squash to me. Lesnar can kick out of a bunch of spears and finishers by young Roman but can't against old Goldberg?

I think the point Feldman was trying to make is that the Goldberg/Brock stuff was just pointless and didn't help the overall product in a long term sense. If that's what he was saying then I agree with him. I mean Goldberg came in as a 50 year old man, squashed a guy that was previously billed as unstoppable, squashed the full time champion and then dropped the belt a month later to the first guy he squashed and left. I didn't think it was great to watch until Goldberg got beat and it did nothing to enhance to anyone or anything about the show.

What I noticed about Goldberg is that although he looked in shape, his cardio didn't seem up to par.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all his matches since his return have been fairly short (not sure for his last one at Mania though).

Yeah, El Kabong articulated my point better than I did.

And I just saw that Cena neck drop from the Nakamura match. Yikes. It's a good thing he's a ball of muscle and didn't get hurt from that. Holy cow.

Yeah, but that was probably never the point. I didn't love it either, but I will admit their "encounters" were entertaining for what they were. The point was to get lapsed fans to buy the network or even get younger fans interested in Goldberg, who they can find on the network.

I can't actually remember the last thing they did for long term value though, aside from shove Roman down everyone's throat, so I guess at this point I'd rather take the momentarily entertaining stuff.

That said, the Roman/Braun feud is the best long term feud/angle they've run since HBK/Jericho and maybe even better than that. I love watching guys who absolutely want to destroy each other and might physically be able to too. /Tangent

going to Raw tomorrow ..... god help me

It's a holiday here though so I expect the crowd to be liquored up and rowdy. Think Braun is going to get the biggest pop of the night

I'll at least be in for Reigns/Braun Last Man Standing (why is that not a PPV match?), though I fully expect Joe and/or Lesnar to lay them both out for a no-contest

Haha, random guy just standing around backstage in wrestling gear.

He's a great wrestler. Who are you to doubt Jean-Pierre Goulet? This guy's a serious professional.

Keep Bayley OFF THE MIC!!

Im a little behind, but the gold on Jordans trunks, and the lighting when he was at the top of the ramp was unfortunate.

lol at crowd reactions to Jason Jordan and Bayley.

It's time to move this Jordan/Angle story along, so it can be put out to pasture.

Just tuned in. Feel like I should stick around for Last Man Standing.

yeah, in for hoss fight

I approve of Braun Strowman drop kicks.

If Canada really were bizarro land, wouldn't they be cheering Reigns?

And anybody remember the last match where a face was locked in a cage to stop them from interfering?

I approve of Braun Strowman everything. Push this guy to the ****ing moon.

I also approve of office chair shot put.

Umm...Braun was down the whole time. WTF.

Something something why did they stop counting Strowman stupid booking ruins a fun match

You totally didnt see him pull out a bottle of five hour energy and chug it just before he stood up? Gotta pay close attention man geez.