Do you watch talking smack?

Remember when I would get mocked for making a statement like this 6-9 months ago?

No, I just watch clips people post on here. I wouldn't be surprised to find out he's more interesting on there, everyone seems to be.

Not on 2p2. His 2010/11 run was over big time, people still pop whenever that WM promo is posted. I think most people here know what he is capable of it's just his booking got stale.

That is kind of his character -- everyone else is trying to entertain, he just wants to kick ass. It works for me, but I see what you're saying.

As for "burying," I wish the word was just retired forever at this point.

Yeah no one has been buried by it's traditional definition but it's fair to say their characters are being damaged. When you have a guy like Owens come in and be some monster that only wants prize fights to becoming a coward, it hurts them when it comes to booking him in big matches.

Agreed. The IWC people seem to forget that he was a darling of theirs back then. His run with the briefcase in particular was AWESOME. He's always been great but it feels like creative has periods where they just forget about him.

Miz was also a horrendous babyface, and I'm unconvinced that it was just a booking issue since he seemed like he could fit that role well. I realize that problem is far from exclusive to him, but he was especially terrible.

I agree with Dylan about Corbin. Can't really find it in myself to care about him.

Looks like Seth Rollins may have re injured his surgically repaired knee when Samoa Joe took him down for his submission finisher ON Raw. Would be devastating if this was serious or takes him out of WM vs HHH.

I like how Seth Rollins is connected in some way to like 90% of the major injuries on the roster

Going forward I will refer to babyface miz as Chex Miz

So if the plan might be to strap Wyatt in two weeks, why have Cena win in the first place? Although, I'm guessing AJ not getting his rematch once Cena drops the belt gets them to AJ/Shane.

Maybe to not have AJ lose the title to Wyatt? Losing the title to Cena keeps AJ strong, in theory. And also allows AJ/Wyatt in the future without it losing its luster due to already happening.

Although they could have just had AJ lose the title in the Elimination Chamber without eating the pin had they just wanted to move the title to Bray without making AJ look weak.

He'd still have to eat a pin at some point during that match. Agreed that it's better for him to drop it to Cena at RR.

Pointed out earlier, but this week was the absolute rock bottom for champs losing in non-title matches:

Kevin Owens (Universal champ) < Braun Strowman (DQ)
Chris Jericho (US champ) < Sami Zayn (pin)
Charlotte Flair (Raw Women's champ) & Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson (Raw tag champs) < Bayley & Sheamus & Cesaro (Bayley pinned Flair)
John Cena (WWE champ) & Luke Harper < The Wyatt Family (Orton pinned Cena)
Dean Ambrose (IC champ) < AJ Styles (pin)
Alexa Bliss (SDL Women's champ) & Mickie James < Becky Lynch & Naomi (Naomi pinned Bliss)
Neville (CW champ) & Noam Dar < Jack Gallagher & Cedric Alexander (Alexander pinned Dar, Neville walked out)

That has to be some kind of record. I'm sure American Alpha would have lost too if they were allowed to have an actual match.

That's truly amazing.

KO defending against Brock just announced for the SD brand MSG show on Sunday 3/18.

Interesting. Fast lane is 3/5. Does that mean KO is champ going into MSG?

Why is Kevin Owens losing to Braun by DQ Leading that list? There were about 5 segments on Raw, not to mention how often the commentators mentioned it, about how that was a championship match.

Someone said in the NVG thread:

They networked the MSG house show leading into Mania (which also featured a Brock appearance I believe) last year. Considering EC is in just another week and then nothing else to WM (I assume), I wonder if they'll do so again?

Last time it was instantly announced as a house show so it doesn't look like it. I do hope so, though. The Garden shows are so much fun just because, MSG.

meh, made it 6 minutes before turning. perked up for joe, rolled eyes and turned channel for "steph berates people #5944954900". Hopefully smackdown is good tomorrow (it's kind of been pretty mediocre lately, albeit better than raw)

They immediately want to turn Joe face.

How many tag teams are on Raw? So sick of seeing Sheamu/Ceasaro wrestle Gallos/Anderson.