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Old 10-28-2013, 10:08 PM   #25001
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Re: **WWE Raw/Smackdown Viewing Thread**

Having a long term effective plan for him would be solid business. Simply having more of him on TV not knowing what to do with him is petty stagnation and will lead to the crowds getting bored and not caring.

Also, can anyone explain to me why the *** R-Truth was the main guy on the HIAC poster? That seriously confused me.
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:10 PM   #25002
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Having a long term effective plan for him would be solid business. Simply having more of him on TV not knowing what to do with him is petty stagnation and will lead to the crowds getting bored and not caring.
Idk him attacking people like Punk and Bryan that the audience cares about seems like a huge step up from having him attack Miz and Truth.
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:27 PM   #25003
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So is this worth catching later?
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:32 PM   #25004
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Yeah it's actually been pretty entertaining tonight.
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:34 PM   #25005
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Re: **WWE Raw/Smackdown Viewing Thread**

So heard TNA is for sale to hgihest bidder?

Vince gonna take wrestlers paychecks away again? And take jobs away to Wrestlers who dont have what it takes to make it to WWE?

Hope he dont buyit becuase WWE needs competition. Without competition WWE will just slowly flat line.

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Del Rio is annoying me....Cena will bring relevance back the the World Heavyweight title and not make it into like a 2nd tier (Minors) in a way lol.
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:35 PM   #25006
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So is this worth catching later?
Except for the opener result, it has not been too bad. Half decent tonight.
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:39 PM   #25007
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WWE isn't gonna slowly flatline without competition, not possible. WWE is WWF/WCW's flatline after WCW was bought by Vince...its always been one long, agonizing flatline and absolutely dead compared to what once was.

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Old 10-28-2013, 10:42 PM   #25008
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Yeah TNAids is not competition at all to WWE. UFC is the closest thing WWE has to completion.
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:51 PM   #25009
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Re: **WWE Raw/Smackdown Viewing Thread**

Who's left to face Orton if Bryan/Punk are taken out, and Big Show is still banned?
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:54 PM   #25010
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Who's left to face Orton if Bryan/Punk are taken out, and Big Show is still banned?
Cena ldo.
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:02 PM   #25011
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Re: **WWE Raw/Smackdown Viewing Thread**

just putting it out there, even if i had the money, i would NOT pay for the big show's bail
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:02 PM   #25012
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This whole Big Show storyline is the most Russo-like storyline ever.
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:05 PM   #25013
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Well, this cements me not buying tickets to Survivor Series!
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:41 PM   #25014
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Watched just enough of RAW to see them utterly bury a promising young wrestler and realize that they have devoted most of creative's time to push a 7 foot tall 41 year old wrestler.
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:48 PM   #25015
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:42 AM   #25016
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So Show/Orton and ADR/Cena are the 2 top feuds right now?

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Old 10-29-2013, 03:44 AM   #25017
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Watched just enough of RAW to see them utterly bury a promising young wrestler and realize that they have devoted most of creative's time to push a 7 foot tall 41 year old wrestler.
This

Seriously wtf. Just like Punk 2 years ago, DB could have been the biggest star in the company. I guess all the "good for business" **** was legit.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:28 AM   #25018
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Did anyone seriously expect Cena to drop the title here?

Honestly, yes. Beating a cash in straight up was pretty much the final "huge" thing they could do. Nobody is beating Taker at Mania, the titles are just props now, and even beating Cena clean has happened a handful of times over the past couple years. Defending against a cash in was the only thing left that was built up to be a shocking moment instantly giving credibility and elevating whichever person was able to do it. I didn't think they could possible waste the only thing they had left on making Cena look even stronger.

When you factor in them having 9 months to wait patiently for a good spot for Sandow to cash in (so they weren't running out of time or anything) and the fact that they did it to someone that actually gets buried by it (instead of it being an already established star), it made absolutely zero sense on any level for it to happen.

It's somehow the most absurd booking decision they've had in a long, long time. Their handling of Ziggler was tough to top, but they did it.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:52 AM   #25019
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patience guys, patience....

if bryan doesnt get the wwe title back and have a meaningful run in the next 12 months (hopefully going over unified at mania) then ill be the first to admit i was wrong, but i think given the fact they have to book 3 ppvs at this time of year im not sure this isnt a part of something bigger and better
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:11 AM   #25020
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This isn't a whine-about-cena-champ thing though. He should be the champ and its good to elevate the whc. Its probably part of a unification plan which is good.

This is about them burying sandow and finally crossing the last major event they could cross for no reason except lolcena. They could have kept the same plan to unify (if that's the plan) and just had sandow hold the case for a while. They had until july to figure it out.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:35 AM   #25021
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Yeah I can agree with that. My post was much more directed to the posters before you, in particular kabong and moorobot.

There could be something to Sandow, maybe they want him competing for WWE at some point (I can't think how or why), or maybe they just feel they need him back elevating the midcard, but it definitely seems like terrible booking at face value.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:53 AM   #25022
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Yeah it's mainly what Jim said. I actually like Cena but him getting the "MITB cashes in on injured champion but champion still retains" push is beyond awful. They might as well have just gone full on troll mode and given it to HHH.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:01 PM   #25023
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I mean I tend to think that this thought of a unification angle only came about recently and that they suddenly went "oh ****, what do we do about Sandow's briefcase" and lit it on fire like that to get it out of the way.

In the short term I don't know that there was a great option if that sequence was true, but it's definitely an indictment of their inability to plan ahead more than a month at a time.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:01 PM   #25024
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Btw I've been wondering for a while why they don't have the MITB holder beat the **** out of the champ and THEN cash in, so I am glad they did that. I was thinking more insta pin than cut to commercials though, lol.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:42 PM   #25025
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Honestly, yes. Beating a cash in straight up was pretty much the final "huge" thing they could do. Nobody is beating Taker at Mania, the titles are just props now, and even beating Cena clean has happened a handful of times over the past couple years. Defending against a cash in was the only thing left that was built up to be a shocking moment instantly giving credibility and elevating whichever person was able to do it. I didn't think they could possible waste the only thing they had left on making Cena look even stronger.

When you factor in them having 9 months to wait patiently for a good spot for Sandow to cash in (so they weren't running out of time or anything) and the fact that they did it to someone that actually gets buried by it (instead of it being an already established star), it made absolutely zero sense on any level for it to happen.

It's somehow the most absurd booking decision they've had in a long, long time. Their handling of Ziggler was tough to top, but they did it.
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