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01-28-2022 , 02:57 PM
My favorite subtle thing in that footage is Jim Ross going "wat" and then evacuating the table before Droz attempts the puke.
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01-28-2022 , 08:16 PM
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Bastion Booger was also large.
Lol, I used to think Blue Meanie was a reincarnation of him.
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01-29-2022 , 03:37 AM
Special Delivery time, 9 seconds.

What a guy his Lordship is.

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01-29-2022 , 03:49 AM
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To be clear, Yoko was a pretty good wrestler and did fine with the role. But at WM IX, he didn't have Jim Cornette, so it was just Yoko and Fuji, and...what was I supposed to care about? He had no apparent personality, no real gimmick. Oh, he throws ceremonial salt before the match? I spy a WrestleMania main event heel.

Obviously Cornette was a game-changer. He made the whole package way more interesting.
As a kid, it felt like a big deal when he Banzai-Dropped Hacksaw Jim Duggan on the American flag and left him stretchered out, bleeding from the mouth in the leadup to WM 9. General anti-American junk, but he did crush jobbers harder than a Sgt Slaughter or Iron Sheik did at least
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01-29-2022 , 12:25 PM


It's just such a weird reflexive exclamation by Gene here. "**** it!" is so low on the list of ways I can imagine reacting.
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01-29-2022 , 01:15 PM
He nailed the national anthem at Wrestlemania. What a choice that was.
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01-29-2022 , 01:20 PM
Well he is a renowned recording artist.

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01-30-2022 , 01:34 PM
Alright, I made it through January 1982 territory shows.

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January 1982 Territory Thoughts

I'll try to keep these comments without any substantial spoilers. If I say too much, just let me know and I'll rein it in next month.

Mid-Atlantic
It seems to be the Crockett style to have too many titles. This was certainly true at the start of 1982 with the NWA World, United States, Mid-Atlantic, NWA TV, World Tag Team, and Mid-Atlantic Tag Team.

In addition, Billy Robinson was promoted as a British/European Champion and Terry Taylor was billed as the NWA Rookie of the Year.

Belts and Titles for half the roster!!!


Ric Flair never makes and appearance and is rarely mentioned. However, he's promoted for the first show in February. It would have been good to watch this show starting years earlier when Flair was building his reputation to become NWA champion.

Sgt. Slaughter was a great heel. I saw him in 1980-81 in the WWF and the evil marine drill instructor gimmick worked beautifully. He reuses his Cobra Clutch challenge here. In the WWF, it sparked his big feud with Pat Patterson.

Roddy Piper is great. But, I'm not that into him as an announcer. He's certainly far better than Caudle and Crockett. But, he's not up to the Ventura/Heenan standard. (and Piper was just plain bad as a babyface announcer in the WWF)

Ricky Steamboat's mustache makes it's first appearance. I don't like it.

Blackjack Mulligan Jr. (Barry Windham) looks a bit odd emulating his father. He was definitely right to retool his image a year later in Florida.

I don't like Jimmy Valiant and he's going to be a big star here for years to come. It probably doesn't help that he's got a generic over-dubbed music entrance.

Jake Roberts was okay as a young babyface. But, his Texas gimmick was no good. He clearly was right to turn heel and dump the cowboy hat. Also, his kneelift finisher is great.

Ray Stevens was way past his prime. Likewise, Paul Jones and Johnny Weaver don't do anything for me.

Ninja is lame. But, the Great Kabuki and Gary Hart will arrive in about a year.

I believe Gene Anderson was genuinely injured and that was the reason for announcing a World Tag Team title tournament.

The structure of this tournament is ridiculous. Did the fans really buy it? It's even worse than saying Pat Patterson won the Intercontinental title in Rio de Janeiro.

I do like that they showed footage of Adrian Adonis and Jesse Ventura from the AWA. Also the Jack and Jerry Brisco match from Florida had a great pinning combination by Jack Brisco. I've never seen that before.

Apparently, Ole Anderson (the booker) really tried to make a ridiculously large tournament happen and some of it actually took place. But, it's going to all fall apart and be a big dud.

The generic opening theme is lame.

This is the original theme of Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling
Agree with a lot of this. Mostly, the show amounts to Slaughter and Piper being entertaining, with a side of Ricky Steamboat when he gets in the ring. Jake Roberts shows that he has the raw material to be a star, but he's not that interesting here. I was interested in Terry Taylor at his first appearance, but his next couple of enhancement matches were fairly dull.

Just generally, after some entertaining shows the prior month that seemed to feature some creative direction, it felt like Mid-Atlantic really ground to a halt in January by spamming this tag team tournament into every single moment of every episode. Hopefully the part where it falls apart happens soon. I did think the 1/30/82 show was better than the previous couple of weeks, so hopefully it's trending up.

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Mid-South
Mid-South offered great action this month with some "fan voted dream matches".

All the Ted Dibiase - Paul Ordorff stuff is excellent. It's a bit amusing that Ordorff and Roop "discovered a counter to the figure four leglock". 1982 seems very late to be doing that angle.

We missed the Dusty Rhodes - Great Kabuki match. But, we did get a very bizarre Dusty Rhodes interview.

Junkyard Dog, Dusty Rhodes, and Andre the Giant vs. Ernie Ladd and the Wild Samoans really could main event anywhere in the world. And, we got a good clean finish.

Not all of the top TV matches on Mid-South get good finishes. But, enough do to be satisfying.

Some of the old timers aren't working for me. Dick Murdoch is okay. But, Bob Roop is not generating any excitement.

Cowboy Bob Orton must have given his notice on his way to the WWF. He's getting jobbed out big time.

The Iron Shiek is doing his Persian Club challenge. But, by the end of the month I don't understand what's happening with him. Maybe he left Mid-South.

Bill Watts is known as a rambling commentator. This month he goes on about Cat Zaboulas the Welcher. It's some type of inside commentary.
It does seem that Sheik legitimately abruptly left the territory, and they were just left to clumsily explain it away. Mid-South was way stronger than Mid-Atlantic this month. DiBiase and Orndorff were awesome.

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World Class
World Class still has too many of it's old timers and hasn't yet embraced the youth movement.

Jose Lothario is already 47. So is Arman Hussein. At least they move like they're still 40-45 years old.

Tim Brooks is only 35. But he also moves like he's 40-45.

Tom "Boogaloo" Shaft is also old and slow in the ring. But, he can at least talk. In a year, he'll be replaced by the much younger Iceman Parsons who may have stolen his butt-butt finisher from Boogaloo.

Gene Goodson is a terrible announcer. Bill Mercer will be better when he arrives. Though, I was never a big fan of his either.

For some reason, WCCW is using two referees in tag team matches. It's dumb and clutters up the ring. Of course, using old and slow Bronco Lubich as a referee is even dumber.

I'm intrigued by Big Daddy Bundy as a babyface. He won't stay that way long but he seems to have the fans behind him now.

Kevin and Kerry Von Erich look good. But, David is not seen or mentioned. He must already be in Florida working as a heel.

The Great Kabuki seems to be the most interesting heel at the moment. He apparently recently blinded Fritz Von Erich with the green mist. But, we haven't seen footage of it.

Kabuki is unique in appearance and style. He's a great guy to have on the roster.

Kabuki's match with Kerry Von Erich was the highlight of the month.

Carlos Zapata works as a jobber here and in Mid-South. What a career.



This took too long to write.
I found WCCW to be entertaining both weeks that it was available, but it has a few weeks of missing episodes this month. Seems like that is going to happen during the first few months of the year. I enjoyed what the Von Erichs were bringing to the table here. As someone who really didn't enjoy Kerry much in his WWF days, it's interesting to revisit the territory where the fans were just on fire for him and his brothers.
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01-30-2022 , 02:20 PM
I think it was Jim Cornette's podcast where I heard this story about the Von Erichs. One of the agents went to Kerry and told him he was going over and asked how he'd like to finish the match. Sunset flip. Okay.

Five minutes later, Kerry stopped the agent: "What was that finish again?"

Apparently, a lot of the Von Erich finishes had to be really simple because they were so dumb.

Also, on Arn's podcast about a year ago, they restructured it into an autobiographical format, where every episode covers a couple of months in his career, starting from the beginning. It might make a decent companion to anyone going through the territories in the 80s.
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01-31-2022 , 06:23 PM
Mae Young just cracks me up. Feisty AF.

Finally got to see the infamous hand birth. Really preposterous stuff.
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01-31-2022 , 07:12 PM
Mae Young seems like she was awesome. I remember an anecdote where she told one of the Dudleys to stop being a pussy and give her a real bump.

That said...not a fan of her actual on-screen segments. But I would have been thrilled to drink a whiskey with her.
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01-31-2022 , 08:14 PM
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Mae Young seems like she was awesome. I remember an anecdote where she told one of the Dudleys to stop being a pussy and give her a real bump.

That said...not a fan of her actual on-screen segments. But I would have been thrilled to drink a whiskey with her.
I saw Bubba Ray powerbomb her through a table from the 2nd rope this morning.
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01-31-2022 , 11:09 PM
Al Snow and Steve Blackman were throw-away acts on their own, but that short period where Snow kept trying to inflict a gimmick and team name on Blackman was very entertaining.
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02-01-2022 , 12:11 AM
I grudgingly understand a desperate company giving a hotshot push to Mabel in 1995 to give Kevin Nash a PPV challenger. I do not for the life of me understand him still being employed and wrestling five years later as Viscera.
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02-01-2022 , 01:55 AM
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Al Snow and Steve Blackman were throw-away acts on their own, but that short period where Snow kept trying to inflict a gimmick and team name on Blackman was very entertaining.
I just saw the beginning of this today. Blackman was not amused.
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I grudgingly understand a desperate company giving a hotshot push to Mabel in 1995 to give Kevin Nash a PPV challenger. I do not for the life of me understand him still being employed and wrestling five years later as Viscera.
Are you serious? Have you seen how big he is?
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02-01-2022 , 02:00 AM
Big V splashed Mae Young, and she turned out just fine. It wasn't until she splashed Crash Holly (lol at carrying a scale around as a prop) that she was sent into fierce labor.

Emt: Wait a minute. Ma'am, when was the last time you had your period?

Mae: 1957 (lol)

Emt to Sexual Chocolate: Sir, are you sure you impregnated this woman?

Lol, what a question.
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02-01-2022 , 06:39 AM
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Are you serious? Have you seen how big he is?
Yes. Once a huge dude like that hits his head on the ceiling and falls down the elevator shaft, there's really not much to do with him. He was never again in a program with anyone significant. He ends up in crap like comedy romance subplots like Lillian Garcia. The most accidentally amusing thing he fell into was a brief period where he was the counterpart heel pimp to Godfather's gimmick (complete with uglier women, because that's where the good guy/bad guy line would be drawn), and Jim Ross was dropping his voice and saying, "Well, Viscera is a very different kind of pimp..."

After the sequence in 1995 where he delivered a reckless move to Diesel at SummerSlam that could have ****ed up Diesel's back really badly, followed by him actually breaking an orbital bone in Undertaker's face in his ensuing feud, I don't really know how he managed to stick around. I'm sure it played a key part in ensuring that they at least knew better than to put their most valuable pieces in the ring with him anymore.
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02-04-2022 , 12:09 AM
Apparently there was a time in 1988 when John Laurinaitis managed the Sheepherders. What an odd combination.
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02-04-2022 , 06:18 PM
Just finished Backlash 03

Big Show throwing Rey in to the ring post while he was tied in to the stretcher was brutal, couldve caved his skull in.

Was that planned or not, it seemed a bit ad lib and sloppy
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02-04-2022 , 06:47 PM
Glamour Girls vs. Jumping Bomb Angels 2/3 falls for the women's titles at Royal Rumble '88 is one of the real curiosities from that era. A women's tag team division was a thing you would basically not realize existed. These teams would have gotten very little airtime leading in. 2/3 falls matches rarely happened in the WWF. Angels get a polite face pop at the start, but nothing more. Over the course of the match, they're so damn entertaining that they're over huge by the end of the match, getting a massive crowd reaction. And then I never saw them wrestle again.

Jimmy Hart managing the Glamour Girls was helpful for a match's heat obviously, but it really felt like the Angels overwhelmingly got over just with their workrate.
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02-05-2022 , 12:37 AM
To this day I can't see two wrestlers have a staredown without mumbling, "Two ugly people looking at each other, that's fun." All in tribute to Bobby Heenan's line when Bret Hart and Roddy Piper had a staredown at WrestleMania VIII.
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02-05-2022 , 12:49 AM
WTF, this is the chair they give Andre for a contract signing?

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02-05-2022 , 01:06 AM
Lol. Is that leading up to SummerSlam 88?
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02-05-2022 , 01:16 AM
That's leading up to The Main Event in early '88, where the twin Hebners showed up together for the first time, Hogan got screwed out of the belt, and the WrestleMania IV tournament for the vacant title was set up.
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02-09-2022 , 09:13 AM
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