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07-08-2017 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AllBlackDan
Lol I actually enjoy Alfonzo's whistle in moderation
I feel the same way. One of the best things about Alfonso with Taz in 96 was Taz with his arms folded before a match and Alfonso hugging the top rope, while shaking it like The Ultimate Warrior, and blowing his whistle. It was an awesome contrast between wrestler and manager.
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07-08-2017 , 11:14 PM
I didn't mind Alfonso either.
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07-09-2017 , 12:15 AM
You're all crazy. Alfonzo's semi constant rape whistle is awful.
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07-09-2017 , 12:27 AM
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I will be interested to see how Stevie Richards and Raven fair over at WCW they seemed to be crazy over in ECW when I last watched and I enjoy their respective schtick. Hopefully the dont **** up their personas too much like they did Public Enemy
Did Stevie ever wrestle in WCW? I thought he just did the RTC gimmick in WWF after he left ECW.

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Loving Eddie Guerreros 97 heel turn, he has played it great so far
This following video hilarious but there's some talk about half way through about Eddie's heel turn.



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isolated cited the "rise of Al Snow" so that will be intriguing
You won't be disappointed....well, until the climax.
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07-09-2017 , 12:37 AM
I just watched Stevies Nitro debut against Scotty Riggs which he won with a Steviekick just before Raven ambushed him

It looks like they are feuding from their entry into WCW
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07-09-2017 , 12:30 PM
When was the BWO formed?

It's amazing what a little head did for Al Snow's career.
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07-09-2017 , 04:49 PM
I think it was at November to Remember 1996.
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07-13-2017 , 04:32 AM
Just watched the NWO 4 Horseman parody promo

****ing AMAZING! I had no idea it was coming and lolled hard.

Super enjoyed Arns retirement promo where he gives Curt his spot before this too

So damn disrespectful and fitting of the NWO persona
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07-13-2017 , 04:36 AM
The sheer patience of the Sting crow angle was insane

Building up Sting over a year without wrestling was amazing, like he was just a dark cloud hanging over the NWO the whole time just waiting to overwhelm them

So many mini angles going on all the time with all superstars too

Im really enjoying viewing every companies stuff at the mo
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07-13-2017 , 04:42 AM
Holy ****

Nice segment with Hogan beating up a mannequin Sting just now on Nitro 104

They pretty much foreshadowed Owen Harts accident at first, pretending the rigging had failed and that Sting crashed into the floor and needed an ambulance

Wtf at Dibiase managing the Steiners, I never thought Ted could turn face
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07-13-2017 , 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AllBlackDan
Just watched the NWO 4 Horseman parody promo

****ing AMAZING! I had no idea it was coming and lolled hard.

Super enjoyed Arns retirement promo where he gives Curt his spot before this too

So damn disrespectful and fitting of the NWO persona
The NWO 4 Horsemen parody promo is so good. I think it was LKJ's first round pick in the GOAT promo draft.
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07-13-2017 , 07:46 AM
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07-13-2017 , 01:02 PM
Lol
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07-13-2017 , 01:52 PM
You should go read some of the behind the scenes stories on all of that (which probably weren't widely available at the time).

That NWO promo caused a lot of heat with Arn and the Horsemen.

Sting was injured, so they really didn't have a choice. Now, if he were healthy it would be over in a month. He'd be in the rafters for a week. It really was awesome though.

The thing I liked most about those years wasn't the entirely about the nature of the content, but almost every person or match felt like it there was some kind of a story.

I believe DiBiase had some kind of religious awakening around that time and started voicing opposition to some of the stuff that was being done. I'm not entirely sure about that much beyond the religious thing though.
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07-13-2017 , 02:08 PM
ABD, just wait until you get to the part where the Horsemen get a rebuttal of some sort, or when the nWo gets its comeuppance, or even to where it makes sense for that promo to have built toward anything at all.

Because, without any of those things that surely must have happened (right?), it would have just been Kevin Nash publicly jerking off on a legend who was freshly dealing with the pain of a sudden and premature death of a tremendous career, who was better than Nash at everything except for being tall.
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07-13-2017 , 02:09 PM
With regard to DiBiase, he was already a born-again during most or all of his nWo days, though I guess it might have only later progressed into a belief where he didn't want to continue heeling it up. He was certainly worthless as a face manager though (really wasn't great as a heel manager for that matter).
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07-13-2017 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
ABD, just wait until you get to the part where the Horsemen get a rebuttal of some sort, or when the nWo gets its comeuppance, or even to where it makes sense for that promo to have built toward anything at all.

Because, without any of those things that surely must have happened (right?), it would have just been Kevin Nash publicly jerking off on a legend who was freshly dealing with the pain of a sudden and premature death of a tremendous career, who was better than Nash at everything except for being tall.
At first I thought you were talking about the actual Ric Flair promo where he shredded Bischoff, but now I'm remembering that had more to do with his kid.

Trying to remember the absolute high point of WCW and where it started going back down hill fast. I'll use spoilers because we may not be there yet:

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Was is the Sting/Hogan match w/ Bret Hart's debut or Goldberg squashing Hogan? Wow, just realized Goldberg isn't even around at this point yet.
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07-13-2017 , 02:34 PM
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Sting was injured, so they really didn't have a choice. Now, if he were healthy it would be over in a month. He'd be in the rafters for a week. It really was awesome though.
This isn't true. He may have been injured at the beginning (and I'm not sure he was) but the original plan was to have him face Hogan at SuperBrawl on February 23rd*. Bischoff saw how well he was getting over and decided to hold off until Starrcade. Bischoff should get tons of credit for that.

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I could have sworn he was rehabbing from back surgery. I can't find anything about it either.
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I looked up the Observers from the end of 1996 - Sting didn't wrestle from Dec 16 1996 until a dark match on the Nitro before Starrcade '97 (Dec 22). No mention of any injuries to Sting. Plus I believe he was on Nitro a bunch - if he was rehabbing from back surgery, he had some incredible healing powers.
edit: from the Feb 17 1997 Observer:
Expect Sting back in the ring later than sooner
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lolz at the bolded.

*This is what TLF said, but in a January observer, it's mentioned that the plan is Piper/Hogan (which is what actually ended up happening). Perhaps TLF is confusing the ppv but Bischoff still did hold out for quite a while if Sting was never injured.
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07-13-2017 , 03:11 PM
The thing that would still make me believe he was injured is how quickly they hot-shotted stuff like Goldberg/Hogan. Did they have such a big lead in the ratings in '97 that they could have held their top guy out by choice? I guess having so many stars and great choices would have helped of course, but I'd still think the week WWE gained a point or so and Sting were healthy...
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07-13-2017 , 03:46 PM
If I remember correctly, I thought he was rehabbing a knee injury for a part of the time he was in the rafters, but I could be wrong
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07-13-2017 , 03:46 PM
Interesting stuff

Im tending to watch a year then go back and read about interesting things that I can remember happening

Yah the horseman promo was brutally disrespectful but was so damn NWO, loved it

Hmmmm u would think the Horsemen would be able to get some revenge, Flair and Curt did destroy Bagwell and Konan the next week lol, sounds like the big daddys get away scot free though

Dibiases back mustve been so bad since he didnt even take manager bumps ever, sad.

Also a bit jarring to see Owen breaking Stone Colds neck while Mongo goes around tombstoning people with impunity. I know who I normally would want to receive a piledriver from
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07-13-2017 , 03:49 PM
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ABD, just wait until you get to the part where the Horsemen get a rebuttal of some sort, or when the nWo gets its comeuppance, or even to where it makes sense for that promo to have built toward anything at all.

Because, without any of those things that surely must have happened (right?), it would have just been Kevin Nash publicly jerking off on a legend who was freshly dealing with the pain of a sudden and premature death of a tremendous career, who was better than Nash at everything except for being tall.
FWIW, which isn't much, Nash has stated that Arn gave him a receipt in the form of a legit shot with a pipe or bat in the back some time later on Nitro
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07-13-2017 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AllBlackDan
Hmmmm u would think the Horsemen would be able to get some revenge, Flair and Curt did destroy Bagwell and Konan the next week lol, sounds like the big daddys get away scot free though
From Fall Brawl 1997 TLF episode: On that Nitro or on FB (I don't remember but they do specify), the Horsemen were supposed to get their heat back. This was planned prior to the NWO doing the parody. After the parody, it was nixed by Nash.

Now that I think of it, it's amazing that Nash doesn't see long term wrt booking and how to get angles over while Hall, by all accounts, is an incredible wrestling mind.
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07-13-2017 , 05:03 PM
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FWIW, which isn't much, Nash has stated that Arn gave him a receipt in the form of a legit shot with a pipe or bat in the back some time later on Nitro
That makes me happy at least. It's something.

To his credit, Eric Bischoff has admitted that giving that promo the green light was a ****ty thing to do, and he said he regrets it in hindsight.

I mean, there's some sort of line here where I'm being sort of a mark by getting so worked up about it, but it just seemed like a ****ty thing to do to one of the company's legends, just for the sake of allowing Kev to be a huge clown in service of absolutely nothing.

In an alternate universe where they clear it up front with Arn and Flair, and it's done in service of setting up an angle where Flair and the Horsemen avenge Arn by destroying Nash, that could have actually been good. As it was, it was just spitting on the grave of Arn's career for no good reason. And, obviously this is entirely subjective on my part, but: even setting the disrespect part aside, it wasn't ****ing funny, just as most Nash promos weren't. It makes his self-satisfied "I'm so ****ing clever" smirk all the more tilting.
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07-13-2017 , 05:14 PM
It happens around the 2:50 mark of this video.

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