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Old Yesterday, 07:28 PM   #9776
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Re: Wrestling OT/LC Thread: 346 Days Until Christmas

Made this in honor of todayís announcement. Yes thatís my actual mask in the meme.

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Old Yesterday, 08:28 PM   #9777
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I'm having to spend an undue time gently attempting to persuade my brother over email that today's announcement is a good thing. This thing where some people have been institutionalized by quarantine is real. At least he demonstrated self-awareness about that so that I didn't have to put time into establishing the obvious.
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Re: Wrestling OT/LC Thread: 346 Days Until Christmas

What's his counter? It seems to be fairly obviously a good thing
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He raised concerns about the safety of it (though he's fully vaxxed), but those concerns are flimsy and he's wrong. He basically has ended up falling back into "but masks could still help," which...fine, but that's not persuasive in terms of dictating what policy should be for the population at large.

But then he moved onto admitting what is surely controlling his whole reaction, that he's just become very comfortable and happy with remote work, and he hates being forced back into the in-office grind, commuting and all. I'm sympathetic to that and I hope to not be back to 5x/week in the office myself, though I suspect that's coming. It is what it is.
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Old Today, 01:11 AM   #9781
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Re: Wrestling OT/LC Thread: 346 Days Until Christmas

These reactions are going to be common.

Have been in Pittsburgh the last few days on Pittís campus. Iíd put mask wearing outdoors at north of 80%. Even runners and bikers which is insane. The girl at the bar where I got beer and wings told me she was so happy not getting a cold this winter that she wanted to keep wearing her mask. Sheís also a fan of continuing social distancing. A waitress walked by and agreed.

Hereís the best take Iíve seen on the whole pandemic from Matt Taibbi:

ďThe arrival of Covid-19 has crashed America on a paradox that reads like the plot of a bad Star Trek episode. Half the country mistakes science for a set of inflexible decrees and demands it be worshipped as a religion. The other half believes the first group is always lying and defies even its sensible dictates, in its own theology of liberation. Science, a deliberative process, is collateral damage to the battle."

Laughed at this since it doubtlessly describes the first group:



Iím sure plenty of others have been made of equal value about the COVID denial crowd.
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Old Today, 06:38 AM   #9782
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Yeah, I mean it seems like there's a couple of things at play.

The first one is that if you've been among the people who has been rigidly following the safety guidelines for over a year, that **** will warp your brain, and it's understandable that this will create a natural awkwardness in returning to normal. I don't have any mockery for this; it makes sense that people would feel this way. They should be trying to get over it though.

The more frustrating aspect is that the reactions I'm describing are also a byproduct of people being obsessively tribal and allowing themselves into fall into the trap of seeing this thing be politicized, with masks somehow becoming a tribal symbol. Obviously there's one person who bears a ton of the blame for this. But in any case, sensible people should not have let themselves fall into the trap of seeing masks as anything more nor less than a common-sense measure for everyone to do their parts to help fend off a raging global pandemic.

However, and I'm not going to pretend to be shocked by it, a bunch of people who were very comfortable using "believe the science" as a cudgel seem to have revealed this purportedly deeply held belief as actually being fairly hollow. A lot of areas of science are obviously well-settled, but a young deadly virus is not going to be one of those, and to truly be a follower of science is to expect and adapt to changes, even stark ones, in reaction to it. Science doesn't exist to cater to your comfort level at any given moment.

Of course, if a person's skepticism about lifting restrictions isn't honest and is just a pretext for "I don't want to go back to the office," I get the underlying impulse and feel the same way. But...just ****ing say that.
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Wrestling OT/LC Thread: 346 Days Until Christmas

I think thatís mostly right. We have a serious collective case of Stockholm Syndrome.

I consider myself to have been a loyal pandemic foot-soldier since the beginning. Consolidated trips out, pretty faithfully masked/social distanced, etc. Could never buy into masks outside or exercisingómy rudimentary understanding of parts per million prevented me from doing so.

Iíve always been acutely aware, however, of how damaging these lockdowns have been socially, culturally, and economically; and that pandemic mitigation measures must always be weighed against these costs. For me, the vaccine was always the ticket to freedomóthe pandemic endgame. Once I got it, however, I began to feel super disillusioned that I could do seemingly no more things. I did an audible GTFO when Dr. Fauci cautioned against dining indoors even whilst vaccinated. Rand Paul (whatever you may think of him) was right in lampooning Fauci for double-masking in a room full of vaccinated people as engaging in nothing more than theater.

My bottom line now: Itís time to move on. Vaccines are and have been available to all who want one. If you choose not to get one, well, thatís on you. The world canít stay paused forever on account of these people.
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