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10-05-2020 , 05:10 PM
I can't take painkillers without thinking of Wally and his disapproval of even OTC pain management. Unfortunately my dentist doesn't dole out the really good stuff.

Obviously not really unfortunate, since the fact that I don't really enjoy this drug has to cut against the risk of developing an addiction. Also I respect a person with prescriptive authority for being cautious in his prescriptions. But I had percocet years ago, and it was amazing, so I always wish he would loosen the reins. I asked, but got shot down. Ah well.
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10-06-2020 , 09:21 AM
Percocet is wonderful, albeit I took some recreationally with a bottle of wine in college (from a friend who didn't want them).

I was on a paid Adderall study for weight loss for a year where I dropped 40 pounds and felt incredible. They had me taken off cold-turkey and I gained most of it back. Haven't been able to find a PCP who wouldn't laugh in my face or roll their eyes when I asked about the possibility of being prescribed it
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10-06-2020 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
I can't take painkillers without thinking of Wally and his disapproval of even OTC pain management. Unfortunately my dentist doesn't dole out the really good stuff.

Obviously not really unfortunate, since the fact that I don't really enjoy this drug has to cut against the risk of developing an addiction. Also I respect a person with prescriptive authority for being cautious in his prescriptions. But I had percocet years ago, and it was amazing, so I always wish he would loosen the reins. I asked, but got shot down. Ah well.
I had morphine the last time I had to go into the hospital.

It was nightmarish. Absolutely no idea how somebody could get addicted to something like that. Sure, it dulled the pain eventually, but upon first being administered it felt like every nerve ending in my body was on fire.

Like you mentioned, that's obviously a good sign for me as I wouldnt get addicted to it, but damn it was unpleasant.
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10-06-2020 , 02:54 PM
The first time I had percocet, it was after I tried vicodin and it did not even slightly touch the pain; I was still in agony. It was as if I had taken a sugar pill, except even that could have theoretically worked since I fully expected the vicodin to put me in a happy place.

Within hours I went back in and pleaded with them to prescribe something stronger, and that was percocet. I took one tiny pill of that, and five minutes later I was sitting there giggling about absolutely nothing. A few minutes after that, I realized that must mean I was no longer in pain.

Can't say I've ever taken morphine. Your description sounds much more negative than other accounts I've heard.
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10-06-2020 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Obviously not really unfortunate, since the fact that I don't really enjoy this drug has to cut against the risk of developing an addiction. Also I respect a person with prescriptive authority for being cautious in his prescriptions. But I had percocet years ago, and it was amazing, so I always wish he would loosen the reins. I asked, but got shot down. Ah well.
I had an oxy addiction for 4 years and it started with the bolded. Since then I've learned that Dr's aren't supposed to give you a specific med if you ask for it because it's the sign of addiction. It was horrible. At the end of every month I'd have withdrawal for at least a few days because I could never make them last all month and going through withdrawal for days isn't something I'd wish on anyone. Withdrawal was constant aches, fatigue, insomnia, and restless leg syndrome. Not fun. Much happier now without drugs.
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10-06-2020 , 04:25 PM
Withdrawal from opiates can actually be fatal.

Not interested in any of that kinda stuff. Old lady just got prescribed some hydrocodone, I pass. I like drugs that change the way I think, but I don't like it when they effect how I feel physically.
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10-06-2020 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
I had an oxy addiction for 4 years and it started with the bolded. Since then I've learned that Dr's aren't supposed to give you a specific med if you ask for it because it's the sign of addiction. It was horrible. At the end of every month I'd have withdrawal for at least a few days because I could never make them last all month and going through withdrawal for days isn't something I'd wish on anyone. Withdrawal was constant aches, fatigue, insomnia, and restless leg syndrome. Not fun. Much happier now without drugs.
FWIW I didn't proactively ask, and it wasn't actually the dentist that I asked. He verbally authorized his assistant to write scripts for pain meds and for an antibiotic. When she wrote hydrocodone, I told her it hasn't worked well for me and asked if percocet would be possible since that has helped in the past. She said he doesn't write percocet for anyone. Again, I respect the restraint even if it wasn't the answer I prefer. Feels like hydrocodone kills like 60% of my pain and also makes me feel kind of nauseous. Tooth pain is such a ***** that even killing that much of the pain still makes it feel worth it to take the drug, but it's just not pleasant.

I definitely take seriously the risk of addiction when this situation arises, and how terrible it would be if I actually got hooked. Thankfully, in my experience, with something like a tooth infection, the antibiotics should kill all pain in less than a week and eliminate the need for it, so I assume I'll be off the pain meds within a few days.
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10-06-2020 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
The first time I had percocet, it was after I tried vicodin and it did not even slightly touch the pain; I was still in agony. It was as if I had taken a sugar pill, except even that could have theoretically worked since I fully expected the vicodin to put me in a happy place.

Within hours I went back in and pleaded with them to prescribe something stronger, and that was percocet. I took one tiny pill of that, and five minutes later I was sitting there giggling about absolutely nothing. A few minutes after that, I realized that must mean I was no longer in pain.

Can't say I've ever taken morphine. Your description sounds much more negative than other accounts I've heard.
Yeah, I doubt that my experience is super regular and may have been my body's way of coping with my pretty immense fear of opioid addiction.

Like BH said, I 100% prefer things that will affect my mind and not my physicality, so I tend to stay away from pain killers as much as possible. I'd take THC to put my mind at ease and subtly dull the pain before taking something that kills the pain but leaves me paranoid that I might become physically addicted
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10-06-2020 , 09:51 PM
It's difficult to decide among Erlich, Jared, and Gilfoyle for funniest character on Silicon Valley.
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10-06-2020 , 09:56 PM
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It's difficult to decide among Erlich, Jared, and Gilfoyle for funniest character on Silicon Valley.

No Jian Yang love? But I easily go
Urlich > Jared > jian > gilfoyle

Season 1 urlich is unbeatable
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10-06-2020 , 10:09 PM
I nearly mentioned Jian Yang. But obvious by excluding him that means I place him fourth.

Jared's "Hey Dinesh, nice chain" line is probably the hardest I ever laughed at any point in that show, and probably harder than I've ever laughed at a bunch of other good comedies.

I can buy Gilfoyle as only third best of those, but I've been rewatching and I've just gained an extra appreciation for how much he adds from the bleachers when he isn't actually being featured in the scene.

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10-06-2020 , 10:15 PM
Gilfoyle being 4th in my list is definitely in no way an insult to him, the show is just that good (early on)

I’ve never actually made it past season 5. Someday perhaps
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10-06-2020 , 10:19 PM
Yeah, I've definitely watched every episode, but honestly I don't remember the last season as well. I'm not sure if that means it was necessarily weak, because it coincided with me having caught up to real time and being stuck waiting a week between episodes. Whole different dynamic when that happens.
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10-07-2020 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
It's difficult to decide among Erlich, Jared, and Gilfoyle for funniest character on Silicon Valley.
I think Gilfoyle gets the best lines, but I'm a big Steven Wright and Norm MacDonald fan, so that makes sense.
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10-07-2020 , 06:19 AM
Funny, I was just thinking last night that Martin Starr's deliveries are a really big part of what makes Gilfoyle so hilarious. They nailed the casting with him.

Related to Jared, I did find it interesting recently on Office Ladies, on an episode when Ed Helms was a guest, that Jenna and Angela said that Ed and Rainn were really the standouts on the cast when it came to improvised lines, and Ed interjected with something like, "But when Zach Woods joined the cast, he absolutely blew us both out of the water. That guy is a genius."
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10-07-2020 , 06:48 AM
Every time I think of early Silicon Valley, I think of this scene when Peter Gregory thanks Florida....



Can't help but think that a similar thing happened upon Vince's first meeting with Flo-Rida.
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10-07-2020 , 06:05 PM
Every single cast interview on Office Ladies is great. David Denman (Roy) seemed super likable on the newest one. I need Leslie David Baker to appear and be awesome, since Stanley Hudson is my hero.
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10-07-2020 , 10:47 PM
Boy have you lost your mind, cause I'll help you find it!
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10-07-2020 , 10:50 PM
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10-07-2020 , 10:58 PM
That line and his doing pushups to leave work early are my favorite Stanley moments.
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10-07-2020 , 11:18 PM
I wake up every morning in a bed that's too small, drive my daughter to a school that's too expensive, and then I go to work to a job for which I get paid too little, but on Pretzel Day? Well, I like Pretzel Day.
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10-07-2020 , 11:20 PM
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10-08-2020 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Funny, I was just thinking last night that Martin Starr's deliveries are a really big part of what makes Gilfoyle so hilarious. They nailed the casting with him.

Related to Jared, I did find it interesting recently on Office Ladies, on an episode when Ed Helms was a guest, that Jenna and Angela said that Ed and Rainn were really the standouts on the cast when it came to improvised lines, and Ed interjected with something like, "But when Zach Woods joined the cast, he absolutely blew us both out of the water. That guy is a genius."
Yeah, I've got Freaks and Geeks, and Party Down on my list now for Martin Starr primarily. I've heard both are great so I'm excited.
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10-08-2020 , 07:45 AM
I need to watch Freaks and Geeks. I watched the pilot once and shrugged, but obviously that's not really giving something much of a shot.
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10-09-2020 , 10:33 PM
So far in my rewatch, I'm going with S04E10 as the best episode of Silicon Valley.

EDIT: I meant S03E10.

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