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01-14-2016 , 08:20 PM
hahahahaha
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01-15-2016 , 02:13 AM
Lol good stories.


Also random but, am I alone in wishing Wikipedia would just put some damn ads on their site and stop asking me for money?
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01-16-2016 , 03:41 PM
A week ago I brushed off the cold weather as not being all that significant of a factor for the Seahawks. Tonight, I'm actually pretty sure I'm going to root for Arizona over Green Bay in spite of Arizona being the far better team, simply because I do not want to see the Hawks have to head back to the upper Midwest again in case they advance tomorrow another terrible cold snap hits next week.

Unfortunately this is a pretty lame divisional playoff schedule this weekend, as it feels like two results (Arizona over GB and Denver over Pittsburgh) are really inevitable.
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01-16-2016 , 03:55 PM
Rooting for Arizona over Green Bay seems like it should be standard for any neutral. I'm a little tired of watching Mike McCarthy's horrendous coaching decisions not get punished appropriately.

I guess you're not really neutral if you're a fan of a team in the other semi-final, but my main point stands.
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01-16-2016 , 03:59 PM
If the Seahawks were eliminated last week then I'm sure I end up rooting for Green Bay tonight just because I won't ever root for a division rival in the playoffs after my team is out (unless two were playing each other I guess), and I especially don't ever want to see Arizona rise up and get their moment at any point.

Anyway, "rooting" doesn't really matter in this game since Arizona probably wins by 14+. Not that rooting actually matters in other games, but the point is that I doubt that it's a contest by the 4th.
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01-16-2016 , 04:23 PM
Forgot about your feelings about other teams in your division.

Seems a little extreme to me, but I'd much rather have that than the people that actively cheer for their rivals' success (looking at you, SEC football).
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01-16-2016 , 04:36 PM
SEC football stuff always was super weird to me, but someone once explained it to me as a combination of 1. More funding for all conference schools if one gets to the title (or something similar), 2. The more "dominant" the sec being allows for more and more sec schools getting better recruits because so many people want to play in the conference when it's touted by the media as the best, and 3. When the conference is on top like it's been it inflates rankings for all members that do ok (see how someone as irrelevant as Tennessee has been over the last decade being in the top 25 at the end of the year at 9-4).

It's still super weird to me, and I don't think that the vast majority of SEC SEC SEC supporters do it for those reasons, but I can at least understand this guys approach.
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01-16-2016 , 05:44 PM
Throughout the regular season I'm always fixating on rooting based on how it affects my team, so naturally I'm spending more time rooting against my division rivals than anyone else throughout the year...generally that breeds actual resentment toward those teams. Arizona gets lucky in this game, or that game, and I'm mad, and it carries over to next week, etc.

There's a general standing both in the division and in the league that motivates me too. Regardless of Arizona's division win this year, the Seahawks basically hold the mantle as the premiere team of the NFC West. A team can either take that mantle away by stringing together consecutive division crowns or by doing something special in the playoffs. If the Seahawks and Cardinals both fell short of the NFCCG then the season doesn't look like a strong anti-Seattle data point.

Leaguewide, I always care a bit about our standing in the tiers of the league. When I started being a fan in the 90s, we were in that bottom tier; we were basically another version of the Browns, minus the misguided sympathy or the jokes about the city. The Holmgren era bumped us up into being a quasi-respectable also-ran since we were a playoff mainstay and got to a Super Bowl. Winning one broke us through to another tier, alongside other one-time winners and below the real long-term successes. As long as we're only a one-time champion, I'm unlikely to want more teams to join the club unless the alternative is worse.

I realize that these are weird things that a vast majority of other fans don't think about.
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01-16-2016 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHalpert
SEC football stuff always was super weird to me, but someone once explained it to me as a combination of 1. More funding for all conference schools if one gets to the title (or something similar), 2. The more "dominant" the sec being allows for more and more sec schools getting better recruits because so many people want to play in the conference when it's touted by the media as the best, and 3. When the conference is on top like it's been it inflates rankings for all members that do ok (see how someone as irrelevant as Tennessee has been over the last decade being in the top 25 at the end of the year at 9-4).

It's still super weird to me, and I don't think that the vast majority of SEC SEC SEC supporters do it for those reasons, but I can at least understand this guys approach.
There are rational reasons to root for the conference for your own program's gain. I'm willing to pass on those benefits in order to embrace the hate, at least against my own personal hate magnets (Washington, Oregon). But if I'm actually convinced that people are rooting for their conference for those reasons (as you said, a vast majority aren't), I guess I can't totally hate on it.

That said, engaging in "SEC" chants is the worst thing in the world. Everyone who does it is bad and should feel bad.
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01-16-2016 , 09:25 PM
Meh, don't think I'm actually rooting in this game at all. **** these teams. I'm just here to watch the world burn.
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01-17-2016 , 12:33 AM
Discount Double-Check is strong tonight
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01-17-2016 , 12:34 AM
That was certainly a holy crap moment, and I have no dog in this race.
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01-17-2016 , 12:36 AM
Obviously it's an unfortunate thing for Aaron Rodgers to have happy moments, but I have been rooting for Green Bay for basically this whole game regardless of how I thought I would feel earlier.
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01-17-2016 , 12:40 AM
I had AZ at -6.5 x infinity
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01-17-2016 , 12:43 AM
Anyway, AZ winning is fine I guess. It was always going to be the case that the winner of tomorrow's game will be the actual babyface next week against the winner of this game while the great unwashed will see it entirely differently.

If Carolina defeats us, even in some totally fluky/undeserved fashion, complete with dirty plays and bad calls and the whole nine yards, I will still passionately jump on their bandwagon the second the clock strikes zero. But obviously I'm hoping tomorrow goes differently than that.
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01-17-2016 , 12:57 AM
Being in AZ, I root for AZ. Should've beat Pittsburgh in 08 and a chance to rectify it this season. I also bet on AZ to win the SuperBowl before the games today
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01-17-2016 , 01:01 AM
My plans for the week:
1. Jerk off repeatedly to the thought of Arizona losing the NFC Title game.
2. That is all.

Might go to work I guess.
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01-17-2016 , 02:44 AM
Aaron Rodgers unhappy about coin flip gaffe

Color me shocked that Rodgers has found something to whine about. I certainly wouldn't expect such a thing after every single Packers loss ever. Specifically, he didn't like that he didn't get a chance to "re-call" for the second flip, a complaint I'm sure we totally would have heard from him if the flip had gone his way and he had won on the first drive.
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01-17-2016 , 02:54 AM
I'm closing in on 10k posts, but don't feel like I'm memorable enough to post a Well to any particular forum...
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01-17-2016 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Aaron Rodgers unhappy about coin flip gaffe

Color me shocked that Rodgers has found something to whine about. I certainly wouldn't expect such a thing after every single Packers loss ever. Specifically, he didn't like that he didn't get a chance to "re-call" for the second flip, a complaint I'm sure we totally would have heard from him if the flip had gone his way and he had won on the first drive.
Word on the street is that he didn't appreciate it.
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01-17-2016 , 12:40 PM
Didn't even realize that the sequence was:

Rodgers calls heads
Original toss lands as tails, but is negated due to not flipping
Second toss also lands as tails

Conclusion: poor American hero Aaron Rodgers got screwed.
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01-17-2016 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Didn't even realize that the sequence was:

Rodgers calls heads
Original toss lands as tails, but is negated due to not flipping
Second toss also lands as tails

Conclusion: poor American hero Aaron Rodgers got screwed.
BUT HE WANTED THE CHOICE TO RECALL!! LOL, thank you for pointing out to me how big a whiny d this guy is. I've generally admired his work, but he literally does have an excuse for every loss.
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01-17-2016 , 02:05 PM
****ty sod gotta work in Carolina's favor right?
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01-17-2016 , 02:07 PM
Seems pretty neutral unless one team is rocking more invincible ACLs than the other.
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01-17-2016 , 02:09 PM
And that helps too
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