I wasn't going to go to the PPV before, but the card change and possible trainwreck value has me more intrigued.

I actually feel pretty bad for a lot of the people in WWE. Like obviously the Bray/Finn story sucks and is too long, but it still has to feel bad when the match you've been working towards for a month gets blown up last-minute.

Angle and AJ are definitely awkward solutions, but I imagine they're scrambling and still want to deliver a PPV quality product so I don't know what else could have been done.

My sources are saying it's neither mumps nor meningitis, it's a prescription drug that violates the Wellness Policy that caused several guys to be taken off the PPV/road for the foreseeable future

In kayfabe, why would the main event still be 3 vs 5? He's GM, he said shouldn't accept being in 3 vs 5 match.

I'm watching some old ass ECW show from like 1993. Jay Sulli (announcer guy) just said "we'll be phoning Terry Funk live at the double cross ranch to find out who his replacement partner will be at the upcoming November to remember show. His original partner was injured after being subdued by police after a parachuting accident in Las Vegas, Nevada."

THATS how you do a replacement announcement.

I don't understand how they missed such an easy angle here.

Have Finn sub in for Roman and have him turn on Rollins/Ambrose with Gallows and Anderson and set up a Balor Club v Shield feud

But Anderson/Gallows aren't in the TLC match.

I'm still holding out hope that AJ comes out as Sister Abigail.

WTF! I'm probably going to sound like a spoiled douche but... on one hand it's awesome to see Angle back but on the other, bringing him back with no build in a multi man TLC match just seems kind of crap. Would have preferred a slow build but I guess it's still 100 times better than him feuding with HHH.

Wait, neck of glass Angle comes back for the first time in years and it's in a ladder match?

That sounds like a really bad idea.

Wouldn't be surprised if he turns heel/doesn't take any bumps

I wouldn't be surprised if Angle took unnecessary risks and WWE never allowed him to participate in a match ever again.

What OneOut said. Seriously, Angle can't help himself.

I'm curious to see how they explain it on air. Not just Angle, but Styles also.

I don't think Angle will end up participating in the match. There's gotta be some kind of swerve. Jason Jordan maybe?

HHH is going to work the house show circuit. Might be a sign that these guys are going to be out longer than expected.

Think he’s just working this one show

Angle should turn heel. He's really awkward as a face and shoehorning OH ITS TRUE, ITS DAMN TRUE into every promo has more than run it's course. Plus obviously you can't have Seth/Dean/old retired guy go over, but you also wanna keep Seth & Dean strong.

Bryan truly giving no ****s while trolling his employer:


Link is to WWE announcing Angle in the TLC match.

I like the comment GM vs GM at Mania 34 for brand supremecy lol

This company is so long term ****ed

Do you think Neville and Aries leaving along with the stigma that's with 205 is going to stop people from signing with the WWE? I mean what do guys like Ricochet and O'Spreay have to look forward to in the WWE apart from 205? Ricochet is a guy that could be a massive star but it feels like he would go straight to the CW if he signed.

Does anyone here actually watch the 205 Live show and if so, is it any good? I know they run angles on there but I just have no interest. Feels like 205 is doing more harm than good but I could be way off the mark.

If a guy is a big enough star (like Finn), they'll put him on the main roster regardless of weight. So I don't really see it hurting the company. I know basically nothing about Ricochet, but someone in his position could join and bet on themselves to rise above the CW label.

I've watched a little more 205 lately since the Enzo angle intrigued me. They have some decent heel characters with him and Drew Gulak (who I think is hilarious but it's an acquired taste), but there's a serious dearth of babyfaces, who are all just good wrestlers without much charisma or promo ability. That said, the show has pretty good action and they are at least developing some characters and story now, which is more than they were doing before.

The problem is that there's so much wrestling on that I'm kind of burnt out by the time it comes around.

Yeah, there is no chance they let an old retired guy go over their younger talent for no reason.

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So, does anyone else think they are headed to a Team Angle vs Team Bryan at survivor series?

I had to wrap my head around why Angle would be put in this match and I think originally angle was going to team with the shield to fight bryan and his smackdown team.. I think they could still do that but this was an easy way to transition angle into that match.

Yeah. Cole specifically said tonight that RAW was going to face SD! in the matches at SS. I'd imagine that there will be one or two traditional SS tag matches like last year. Last year featured Shane as part of SD! but he'll be busy with KO so substitute Shane for Bryan. Angle will be in it because he's the counterpart to Bryan and much like tonight, he won't have to take but a bump or two because of the multiman aspect.