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08-30-2017 , 06:49 PM

#9601

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Seems like they are WAY overvaluing the NXT title.

Nakamura and Joe have no business anywhere near the top 10, and I'd probably boot Roode out of there as well.

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08-30-2017 , 07:03 PM

#9602

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Come to think of it, KUSHIDA could've been in the top 10. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight champ for over 200 days in that time frame and great match after great match. Oh and he also held the ROH TV title for the last month of that time frame as well.

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08-30-2017 , 07:11 PM

#9603

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This seems impossible. It's a kayfabe accomplishment list. Everyone on that list held a title but Omega who won the 2016 G-1 tournament which is much more important to NJPW than the IC/US belts are for WWE.

Didn't realize this. Thought it was plain power rankings.

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08-30-2017 , 07:36 PM

#9604

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Just found the following at this link

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– Props to PWI for placing recognizing the star power of Neville, placing him at #11 overall.

– Bray Wyatt winning his first WWE Championship was enough to get him into the top 20, at #15, but still feels a bit high for the uneven year Wyatt had.

– NJPW may have been light within the top 10, but they’re well represented within the top 50: Tetsuya Naito – #12, KUSHIDA – #20, Katsuyori Shibata – #23, Zack Sabre Jr. – #26, Cody – #33, Hiroshi Tanahashi – #39, Nick Jackson – #40, Matt Jackson – #42, Ricochet – #46, and Hiromu Takahashi – #48.

– Not sure that Jinder Mahal has been Champion long enough to justify a #30 finish for the year, hard to forget him being embarassed by Mojo Rawley at WrestleMania 33.

It pains me to see Tanahashi behind Mahal...well a bunch of these guys, actually

. Nice to see Neville at 11. I still think KUSHIDA should've been higher than 20, though.

edit for top 50:

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Here is the top 50
1. Kazuchida Okada
2. AJ Styles
3. Kevin Owens
4. Roman Reigns
5. Kenny Omega
6. Nakamura
7. Dean Ambrose
8. Samoa Joe
9. Bobby Roode.
10. The Miz
11. Neville
12. Naito
13. Randy Orton
14. Adam Cole
15. Bray Wyatt
16. Seth Rollins
17. Christopher Daniels
18. Bobby Lashley
19. John Cena
20. Kushida
21. Will Osprey
22. Chris Jericho
23. Shibata
24. Johnny Mundo
25. Brock Lesnar
26. Zack Sabre Jr
27. Eddie Edwards
28. Finn Balor
29. Pete Dunne
30. Jinder Mahal
31. Marty Scrull
32. Dolph Ziggler
33. Cody Rhodes
34. Braun Strouman
35. TJ Perkins
36. EC3
37. Alberto El Patron
38. Kyle O Reilly
39. Hiroshi Tanahashi
40. Nick Jackson
41. Sami Zayn
42. Matt Jackson
43. Mark Haskins
44. Rusev
45. Matt Hardy
46. Ricochet
47. Yamato
48. Hiromu Takahashi
49. Baron Corbin
50. Tyler Bate

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08-30-2017 , 07:49 PM

#9605

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Naito way too low

LOL Samoa Joe/Nak/Ambrose

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08-30-2017 , 08:19 PM

#9606

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People still take PWI seriously?

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08-30-2017 , 08:22 PM

#9607

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It's fun to talk about regardless of if people take it serious or not.....

Last edited by .isolated; 08-30-2017 at 08:23 PM. Reason: esp in an otherwise dead forum :(

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08-30-2017 , 09:57 PM

#9608

Mat the Gambler

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Originally Posted by antidan444

People still take PWI seriously?

PWI still exists?

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08-30-2017 , 09:58 PM

#9609

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Joe only had the NXT title for about 75 days during that time frame

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08-30-2017 , 10:01 PM

#9610

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Seems like they are WAY overvaluing the NXT title.

Nakamura and Joe have no business anywhere near the top 10, and I'd probably boot Roode out of there as well.

To be fair, NXT is probably the #2 promotion in the US, and maybe #3 in the world. With that said having the three champs in the top 10 might be a bit much, but that always been PWI's M.O. with regards to their kayfabe rankings

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08-30-2017 , 10:24 PM

#9611

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Does anyone think Asuka wouldn't/shouldn't be #1 if they did a woman's version? In fact, they should probably even leave #2 blank to emphasize the gap between here and everyone else.

The thing about the NXT heavyweight title though, they make it feel like it's something more than a prop, so their champions seem more important. KO's Universal reign was the drizzling ****s. His championship played second fiddle to a list.

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08-30-2017 , 10:50 PM

#9612

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ONEOUT! ... YOU JUST MADE THE LIST!

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08-30-2017 , 10:51 PM

#9613

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Originally Posted by OneOut

Does anyone think Asuka wouldn't/shouldn't be #1 if they did a woman's version? In fact, they should probably even leave #2 blank to emphasize the gap between here and everyone else.

They do a women's version. The PWI women's top 50. Give it time

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08-31-2017 , 09:40 AM

#9614

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Originally Posted by ChachiArcola

If that's the justification, where on earth are the Authors of Pain?

They never lost in that time frame. Debut, Dusty Tournament, Tag Titles.

They were dominant. Surely they look better in kayfabe than ****ing Rusev.

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08-31-2017 , 03:40 PM

#9615

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

How do you rate them as singles if they wrestle as a team? And if you figure that out, how do you rank them when they beat people like Tomasso Ciampa, Blake Murphy, and Scott Dawson and Nakamura is beating Finn Balor and Samoa Joe?

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08-31-2017 , 08:38 PM

#9616

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Is there a separate tag team ranking? The Young Bucks are rated highly, and they rarely do singles stuff, right?

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08-31-2017 , 08:42 PM

#9617

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I believe that in addition to the Women's Top 50, they do a Tag Team Top 25.

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09-01-2017 , 10:33 AM

#9618

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There's something odd about this Baron Corbin plaque I can't quite put my finger on.

http://shop.wwe.com/baron-corbin-mon...=en_US&start=2

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09-01-2017 , 09:41 PM

#9619

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No more JBL on Smackdown commentary. He's stepping down to spend more time on the charity he runs.

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09-01-2017 , 11:48 PM

#9620

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No more JBL on Smackdown commentary. He's stepping down to spend more time on the charity he runs.

I read he's not leaving for good. He's just not going to be full time any more. He'll prob come back and do ppv's.

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09-02-2017 , 02:47 AM

#9621

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Seth Rollins on losing the curbstomp:

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“No more blonde and the Curb Stomp is gone, guys. It’s not my fault. Trust me. It’s not like I was (saying), ‘oh yes, I want a new finisher.’ No, they snatched it from me. They took it from me. No, so this is what happened, okay? After WrestleMania, I had won the (WWE) title, and I flew across the country to do the Today Show. For the Today Show, they put together a package of all of Seth Rollins’ awesome maneuvers. At the time, my finish was the Curb Stomp. So Vince McMahon is sitting wherever Vince McMahon sits on a Monday morning and he’s seeing me on the Today Show and I look good in a suit. I’m representing the company. I look good in a suit. And I’m wearing the title and then he sees this package of me stomping another man’s head into the ground and it being called the Curb Stomp on national television. And he thought to himself, ‘well, that’s not a good representation of what I want my top guy to do,’ so he just had a meeting with some of his people, and they decided, ‘well, we don’t need it – we can figure out another finish for you’ and the rest is history. I get it. I hate it. I think it’s silly, but it is what it is and it’s not my company. I’m doing the best I can with it. I get it from a marketing standpoint. I totally understand it. I hate it because it was such a great finish. It was easy and could do it to everybody, but, hey, so it my cool knee now, so let’s start liking that.”

This is pretty interesting because the assumed reason that he lost it was because of concussion reasons. The only other interesting thing is him saying "I look good in a suit" twice.