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03-25-2015 , 01:28 PM
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Reign[/B]ingMen;46466232]I would assume what happens if this is all true is Bork and Roman have a grueling match that MAKES ROMAN LOOK STRONG

Bork wins, they shake hands, ROMAN LOOKS STRONG

Then out comes the authority to beat down Bork. Roman tries to help Bork BUT THE NUMBERS GAME IS TOO MUCH

Rollins cashes in, beats Bork, sets up face Bork and get-the-****-off-my-TV-ffs 'face' Roman vs authority with Roman as the principal member of the feud while Bork is off air
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03-25-2015 , 01:35 PM
If we're gonna get into the fantasy booking ideas, then lets just go all out

- Bork beats Roman
- Authority tries cash in
- Bork retains anyways
- Bork furious at the cowardly attempt by Authority, promises to deliver pain to anyone they send at him
- Bork is still bork, but is a face because he keeps destroying heels instead of faces
- Bork destroys the handful of people over the year that HHH sends at him trying to get the title
- WM 32 rolls around and all of HHH's "tough guys" can't get the job done vs Lesnar. HHH is down to his only option. He doesn't care who does it anymore, he just needs the belt off Bork. Bork v Bryan in front of 100k peope for the title (both as faces)


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03-25-2015 , 01:38 PM
Brock can just be a tweener. It's pretty much what he's been since before RR anyways. No need to change him, at all.
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03-25-2015 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrtrebus
Now we know why he needs Heyman. Should brought Paul with him to this interview.

And I agree with the person who said a 5'9 Owens "terrorizing" Brock might not work. Shame, because it otherwise has potential.
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03-25-2015 , 02:01 PM
I think Brock comes off fine in that vid and don't think he needs Heyman to pull off good promos either. He showed in his first run that he could play various roles in solid angles and some of his real life promos are hilarious.

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03-25-2015 , 02:22 PM
Bork is well spoken but comes off more as a gee golly family guy than a killer.
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03-25-2015 , 02:27 PM
He was also fumbling for words at points.
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03-25-2015 , 02:47 PM
The problem is, as everyone knows, Brock hates people. He loves his family and being left alone in the wilderness. Naturally, it's going to be a little tough for someone that set on being alone to "turn it on" come promo time, but Heyman is awesome so whatever.

As for WM, Brock can go over Reigns clean and still keep Reigns strong. No one has really given Brock a match yet, so if Reigns can go 20 minutes toe-to-toe with him, they can do the "he's just not quite there" thing if they're still intent on him being the guy.
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03-25-2015 , 03:04 PM
I recommend Reigns for the post-Mania cuts if he loses clean. From shoved down our throats to not being allowed on live tv except for tug-o-war to Brock raping him. Just no hope for him after that unless he retools and comes back in 5 years under a mask. I don't say this out of bitterness, just because it's true, it's damn true.
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03-25-2015 , 03:05 PM
And also out of bitterness
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03-25-2015 , 03:06 PM
I think the best and most organic thing they could do with Reigns is to turn him heel and have him cut angry and vicious promos on the fans for costing him his big opportunity. It's the type of thing that works because it's real and wouldn't seem forced or contrived.
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03-25-2015 , 03:10 PM
Still laughing at Groundhog Bray
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03-25-2015 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OneOut
And I agree with the person who said a 5'9 Owens "terrorizing" Brock might not work. Shame, because it otherwise has potential.
Nobody is really a 'believable' opponent for Lesnar. Owens not long ago was doing 450 splashes and is deceptively strong; at least he isn't a middle aged man like HHH or Undertaker. It isn't like Owens would dominate him cleanly. It would be about sneak attacks with weapons and kicking him while he is down.
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03-25-2015 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
I think the best and most organic thing they could do with Reigns is to turn him heel and have him cut angry and vicious promos on the fans for costing him his big opportunity. It's the type of thing that works because it's real and wouldn't seem forced or contrived.
I agree with turning him heel because he is a natural heel. But from his shoots and demeanor I don't see him as an angry and vicious heel, but as a heel who just thinks he is better than everybody; smug heel. He should calmly look at the crowd and say "Shut the hell up and let me talk." like he did in that Rolling Stone shoot.
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03-25-2015 , 07:27 PM
Yeah, "angry and vicious" might have invoked the wrong imagery, but I do think that cutting promos on the fans is the most believable impetus for a turn since he likely really does hate many of us.
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03-25-2015 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by moorobot
Nobody is really a 'believable' opponent for Lesnar. Owens not long ago was doing 450 splashes and is deceptively strong; at least he isn't a middle aged man like HHH or Undertaker. It isn't like Owens would dominate him cleanly. It would be about sneak attacks with weapons and kicking him while he is down.
That's not really how he's been presented yet though. Even with Alex Riley, you almost wondered about this guy plowing through a guy clearly bigger than him. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a great feud, I think it would, but Owens would have to change his approach drastically.
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03-25-2015 , 08:17 PM
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That's not really how he's been presented yet though. Even with Alex Riley, you almost wondered about this guy plowing through a guy clearly bigger than him. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a great feud, I think it would, but Owens would have to change his approach drastically.
Owens could still be built like he has been, taking out lesser wrestlers one after one on Raw, but when he gets to Lesnar, he isn't able to just out monster the beast and has to resort to other tactics. Owens vs Heyman promos are something that just has to happen somehow, some way.
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03-25-2015 , 09:40 PM
I mean you just know if Bork goes face his feuds are going to be vs big show then vs Kane then vs big show *GASP* AND KANE!!!

How will he overcome the odds?
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03-25-2015 , 09:41 PM
I mean how can Bork f5 the big show?

HES TOO BIG!!!!
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03-25-2015 , 09:52 PM
First day after turning face Bork:

-Big Show is talking and Bork comes out

Bork says "Well suffering succotash you big turd, do you ever stop talking? Can I tell you a story?"

Crowd boos.

Vince tilts his head backstage and starts talking to the wall "The crowd turned him face and now they want to boo him DAMMIT!"
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03-25-2015 , 10:04 PM
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First day after turning face Bork:

-Big Show is talking and Bork comes out

Bork says "Well suffering succotash you big turd, do you ever stop talking? Can I tell you a story?"

Crowd boos.

Vince tilts his head backstage and starts talking to the wall "The crowd turned him face and now they want to boo him DAMMIT!"
Yeah, this is the big problem. This is basically everybody's face turn except Austin and Rock.
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03-25-2015 , 10:07 PM
But how will he f5 the big show?

He's too big!

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Yeah, this is the big problem. This is basically everybody's face turn except Austin and Rock.
Clearly someone has successfully eliminated 2011-present era rock from his memory

There are no exceptions. This is the template for a pg face
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03-25-2015 , 10:33 PM
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There are no exceptions. This is the template for a pg face
The product was PG before the Attitude Era and I distinctly remember about 1000x fewer poop jokes. They were able to do great faces like Jake Roberts and Randy Savage without any of this.
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03-25-2015 , 10:39 PM
Ok this is today's pg era face

Karaoke night with the Rock was quite honestly the most ashamed I'd ever been for watching wrestling
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03-25-2015 , 10:46 PM
They're doing faces correctly in NXT right now though too. They haven't completely forgotten how to do it. It's just that there's a big gap between what Vince micromanages and what he doesn't.
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