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08-29-2016 , 06:45 AM
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08-29-2016 , 07:04 AM
KO was my #2. Had Seth at #4. He could have been higher, but the biggest thing that dropped him for me was having to listen to so many of his long, bad promos on Raw. So usage is part of it, since I don't really expect that Rusev could have done very well if being asked to drop 15-minute promos on a regular basis, but I separated my top guys by how consistently they entertain me when they're on screen. Rusev is a joy basically every time. So is KO, really, so in hindsight I'm not totally sure why I put Rusev above him.
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08-29-2016 , 09:58 AM
I'll own up to the Tyler Breeze vote, and I already owned up to the Neville vote.

Thanks Jim, this was cool.
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08-29-2016 , 10:54 AM
Surprised Enzo is so high. His promos are good but he's probably the worst wrestler on the roster including the women's division. He's also going to have to switch up that entrance in a few months before he become's Road Dogg.
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08-29-2016 , 11:11 AM
I don't know if Enzo's worse than Eva, but as long as someone isn't getting a dominant push, most people seem pretty forgiving about faults as long as they do something really well.
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08-29-2016 , 11:15 AM
I'll own up to the bray vote. Think I had him 15 though.
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08-29-2016 , 11:33 AM
The Enzo entrance has already become grating of course, but he's shown good capability at talking independent of his catchphrases. He's still getting overexposed though; he's more likely to go down than up in future editions of this.
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08-29-2016 , 11:58 AM
Many people will be overexposed by the brand split, especially given that Vince decided to bring back the Jinders and Curt Hawkins of the world rather than outbid promoters drawing 600 people a night for good wrestlers.
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08-29-2016 , 01:08 PM
I had all of the top 12 on my ballot somewhere. Also had both Anderson and Gallows, plus I was one of the two who voted for Bayley.
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08-29-2016 , 02:02 PM
For his in-ring work, Neville is comically low on these rankings. Just wish that WWE gave us a reason to care about him.
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08-29-2016 , 02:11 PM
I'm sure the rankings would be quite a bit different if we were asked to rank an objective top 15 rather than ranking a top 15 list of who we personally enjoy the most.
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08-29-2016 , 02:43 PM
Yeah exactly. Crews and Kalisto didn't even get votes and they're both technically very good in ring. Problem is there's nothing to care about. Kalisto and Crews matches do feel a lot more routine than Neville though.

10 top 5 places for Rusev makes me very happy. Real recognize real. Guy is a beast and makes the most out of everything he's given.

I also think Enzo has peaked in these things. I enjoy his adlib stuff too but there's only so many catchphrases, memes and bad matches I can take. Hopefully he proves me wrong and adapts though.
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08-29-2016 , 02:53 PM
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I also think Enzo has peaked in these things. I enjoy his adlib stuff too but there's only so many catchphrases, memes and bad matches I can take. Hopefully he proves me wrong and adapts though.
I'm surprised it hasn't worn thin already for most people, but I was never really into them as an act. Can't stand overly scripted catch-phrase laden promos and the juvenile insults that basically amount to calling dudes gay tilt me.

Enzo is clearly a big talent on the mic and has gotten over with pretty dire material, so I'm hoping they move beyond that instead of just doing the same thing over and over (not optimistic).

To me, it's funny that the forum loves Enzo but hates Dean, who has been cutting consistently great promos lately and is also a better worker who at least tells a story in his matches.
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08-29-2016 , 03:17 PM
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To me, it's funny that the forum loves Enzo but hates Dean, who has been cutting consistently great promos lately and is also a better worker who at least tells a story in his matches.
Great points. OTOH, Dean is a main eventer. Enzo is a mid-card/tag guy. You can't really compare them.

E.g., one may like R-Truth or Heath Slater for what they are--low to mid-card comic relief who do their job well. Doesn't mean they should be main eventing PPVs.
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08-29-2016 , 03:33 PM
Dean has a couple of the worst signature spots on the roster, so not only is he a poor worker, but he's also an actively annoying worker. Dean's bounceback clothesline and weird-ass kick-start off one turnbuckle to throw an awkward running punch at the opposite corner are both worse spots than those awful John Cena shoulderblocks, which is saying something.

That said, I would rate Dean higher on an objective ranking than on personal preference, simply because the level to which he's consistently over in every arena shows that he's objectively doing some things right; connecting with the majority of the audience is the whole point of the job. And, to his credit, he does not employ sing-along.
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08-29-2016 , 03:47 PM
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Dean has a couple of the worst signature spots on the roster, so not only is he a poor worker, but he's also an actively annoying worker. Dean's bounceback clothesline and weird-ass kick-start off one turnbuckle to throw an awkward running punch at the opposite corner are both worse spots than those awful John Cena shoulderblocks, which is saying something.
I definitely get this and the fact that he's higher on the card so we expect guys to be more engaging in the ring than he is. But I think his mic work has been good enough that he's in the top 15 (I had him 9th I think). It helps that he has one of the most defined characters in WWE, which is why he's connected with fans, and has been pretty good playing off both faces and heels. His promos with Ziggler really impressed me in that regard, where he was sort of playing a heel but was still the same guy.
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08-29-2016 , 03:54 PM
The Ziggler promos were a whole other level from basically all of his other mic work to date. If that's his new normal on the mic (or anywhere close to it), I'll like him a lot more even if there will still be a ton of room for improvement in the ring.
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08-29-2016 , 03:58 PM
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To me, it's funny that the forum loves Enzo but hates Dean, who has been cutting consistently great promos lately and is also a better worker who at least tells a story in his matches.
To put this in perspective, I had Enzo the highest and also had Dean fairly high on my list, I love both. So that shows some consistency to what you are saying.
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08-29-2016 , 11:09 PM
2p2 influenced WWE into making KO the Champion of the Universe.
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08-29-2016 , 11:37 PM
and the winner of 2p2 is:

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08-29-2016 , 11:41 PM
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WHAT IS NEXT FOR FINN FALOR?
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08-30-2016 , 10:17 PM
LOL @ BOlieve not getting any votes when everyone was on his nuts last year while I was saying he was a glorified jobber.

Amazing how people buy into recent bias with regards to a wrassler's gimmick.

He's a joke and will never amount to anything in the WWE. Glad to see some of you are finally figuring it out.

Same thing goes for ADR. The only reason he is a mutli time champion is b/c he's Mexican and Vince needed someone to carry that market. If not for that he would have been a jobber too. Good to see he's gone and not wasting a roster spot for a much better up and coming champion.
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08-30-2016 , 10:43 PM
Did Bo Dallas steal a girlfriend from you or something?

As for your recentcy bias point, well the parameters were your top 15 right now, so that should have been one of the top criteria used.
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08-31-2016 , 01:37 AM
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Amazing how people buy into recent bias with regards to a wrassler's gimmick.
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2. You pm a list of your 15 favorite ones as of right now (not all time, just currently). #1 being your favorite.
Because Taker and Rock getting 0 points seems legit.
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08-31-2016 , 01:53 AM
Taker has been irrelevant for several years and people have been ****ting on Rock since his return so neither one of them getting a vote doesn't surprise me.

I'd be more surprised if Bo got 1 vote on a top 15 all time list more than I am that he didn't get at least 1 vote in this "contest."
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