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04-15-2017 , 01:07 PM
billy and chucks wedding was my other option here
good pick
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04-15-2017 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHalpert
billy and chucks wedding was my other option here
good pick


Was on my short list. I'm annoyed that no one liked my Hogan vs Jarrett pick cause I could have gotten it much later
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04-15-2017 , 01:11 PM
I considered the Victory Road thing, but with some of these like the Benoit tribute show and that Jeff Hardy situation, I tend to find less value (for purposes of this draft) in these situations, where the wrestler puts the company in a terrible position and the company bungles the handling of it, than these other angles or segments where the awfulness is purely a self-inflicted wound on the part of the company.
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04-15-2017 , 02:00 PM
Great Claire Lynch write-up. Actually gave it some serious consideration at #4 overall. I (like others) couldn't do it properly though. It's without a doubt first round value though.
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04-15-2017 , 02:04 PM
True North and I will happily take:

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HHH And Friends

The start of 2011 was a great time for WWE, probably their best TV since the Attitude Era. You had the epic CM Punk leaves Raw storyline, the five star match vs. Cena at Money In The Bank,

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THAT CM Punk promo

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... and then HHH decided it was time to make Raw fun again.

First, you had HHH inserting himself as the referee in the John Cena/CM Punk title unification match at SummerSlam, which Punk won when HHH counted the pin despite Cena's leg being on the ropes (which never really got mentioned again, because why not), followed by 94 year old Kevin Nash making things fun again by crushing everyone so that the charismatic Alberto Del Rio could be champion. (By itself, this would be a questionable booking decision, given that you had the hottest **** in a decade happening and nobody was really tired of it yet.) You can pick up that action, apparently recorded by the only man in the arena who thought that was a great idea, here:

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Naturally, instead of having some sort of rematch or triple threat match, HHH decided that the thing to do would be to fire Kevin Nash and give himself a match against CM Punk with his title of COO on the line, while Cena cashed in his Cena In The Bank rematch against Del Rio. (WWE Investor Relations could not be reached for comment as to what would have happened if HHH lost). Naturally, HHH won this match despite interference from Executive Vice President of Talent Relations John Laurinaitis, Nash, Miz, R-Truth, and Loki and his giant metal dragons. (Okay, I made that part about Loki up.)

Over the coming weeks, HHH fired Nash, Miz, R-Truth, Booker T (butnah), and Vince McMahon (in what can only be described as an egregious violation of the WWE organizational flow chart), leading to a vote of no confidence from the WWE roster... and their eventual going on strike.

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Which left HHH all alone to entertain the masses the next week -- which is obviously what the fans were clamoring for all along.

Well, all alone except for John Cena, whipped-into-submission Sheamus, and CM Punk, who was really really excited to get a new addition to his wardrobe:

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The angle was sort of brought to an end when Vince decided to fire HHH mid-match, and replace him with John Laurinaitis

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which at least led to a few so-bad-it's good moments over the coming months. Nash eventually kayfabe injured HHH to finally get him the **** off our TV screens about three months after the angle started. And so WWE had descended from pipe bombs to just bombing in a few short months.

Was it all worth it?

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04-15-2017 , 02:28 PM
Yeah, I hoped on HHH and Friends lasting a while longer, but no surprise that it didn't. The way that it absolutely bombed the **** out of the hottest story they've developed during this PG era gives it a lot of value.
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04-15-2017 , 02:32 PM
Great write ups again. The Angelina Love one is underrated imo, it was ****ing horrendous. It lasted a long time as well.
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04-15-2017 , 02:36 PM
The TNA stuff is going to continue to get naturally undervalued I'm sure.

Cue Mitch Hedberg:
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The guy told me, "You know, you can swear on XM radio."
"No ****, because nobody can hear it. I can swear in the woods too."
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04-15-2017 , 04:27 PM
With my third pick I take

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I DID IT FOR DA ROCK
At the 1999 WWE Survivor Series, Kurt Angle made his WWE debut and Big Show won a Triple Threat match that brought him the WWE Championship.

But neither of those things made the biggest news of the night. This was the event when the infamous hit-and-run attack on "Stone Cold" Steve Austin took place.

Originally, Austin was scheduled to compete in a Triple Threat match for the WWE Championship against both Triple H and The Rock. As Austin was giving an interview, however, Triple H intervened, forcing Austin to go after him.

Shockingly, Austin was then struck by a moving vehicle.



Not only was Austin removed from the Triple Threat match, he would go on to be out of action for the next several months as part of the storyline.

Someone had just taken out the company's top star, and it had the wrestling world buzzing. Who could have done such a thing? WWE fans would be guessing for the next several months.

The way this storyline started out was excellent. It didn't dominate the show, but the writers built on it gradually, giving fans a big reason to follow the product. The best storylines are the ones that keep fans guessing and asking themselves questions.

This had success written all over it.

For the better part of 2000, the big question hanging over WWE centered around who ran over Austin. Who was responsible for putting the No. 1 Superstar in WWE on the shelf?

On each show, it seemed like WWE got closer and closer to revealing the attacker. It even went so far as to give a clue that the driver was seen with blonde hair. This led to speculation that the driver may have been a woman.

Though WWE had a plethora of worthy Superstars to choose from, it went in a very surprising direction.



The decision to make Rikishi the driver was a curious one to say the least, but could it work? The answer to that question was a resounding "No."

The reason this storyline failed miserably was because of the way things turned out. At one point, it was a huge point of interest in the wrestling world. But once Austin returned to action and got his hands on Rikishi, it raised even more questions.

Austin returned to the ring at WWE No Mercy in October 2000 for a highly anticipated encounter with the man who ran him down in a parking garage. What ensued was a completely one-sided affair, the storyline was dead.

WWE was really onto something when it began this storyline. It should have gone down as a piece of wrestling history that fans look back on fondly and still talk about to this day.

Instead, it's remembered as the time they thought they had a star because crowds reacted well to a gigantic fat man in a thong who dances who's most well known move is rubbing his ass in his opponent's face who couldn't cut a promo to save his life. Instead of, you know, the guy who debuted that night and had won every title within the year Austin was out. Or The Rock, the guy who became the face of the company during Austin's absence.

Team
BRAWLOL FOR ALLOL
BOOKER T BLACK AND NOT IN HHH's LEAGUE
I DID IT FOR DA ROCK
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04-15-2017 , 04:39 PM
I'm currently getting my dad on at the park with the kids. When I get home I'll post my two picks
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04-15-2017 , 04:54 PM
Reading along now, this is a great draft for spectating...

Gotta say I'm pretty surprised that [redacted] hasn't gone in the first 6
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04-15-2017 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by True North
Changed my mind, I just couldn't pass this one up.

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The Shockmaster

You want to know what 1993 WCW was like? This sums it up in 90 seconds. Shockmaster was supposed to be the monster face to challenge Vader for the World title, but things just didn't quite FALL into place:



Still one of the go-to references whenever people talk about hilariously bad wrestling moments.
Boom there it is. One of my absolute favourite moments.
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04-15-2017 , 06:40 PM
Let me set the stage for you. It's January 22, 1994. The WWF is at the Probidence Civic Center for their PPV show, Royal Rumble. The last singles match of the evening before the big Rumble match pitted the WWF Champ, Yokozuna defending his title against The Undertaker. This match however had a stipulation attached. The winner would be determined when one man could successfully put his opponent into a casket at ringside and have the lid slammed shut. Yes, folks, we have ourselves an old fashioned casket match.

Unfortunately by the end of this match, there would be nothing old fashioned about it. What nobody knew at the time was that a **** hurricane was going to hit Providence that night, and the eye made landfall right around the 12 minute mark of this match. It started out normal enough, there was back and forth action with a couple of near falls. It wasn't until someone thought it was a good idea to have about 15 heel wrestlers and all of the managers come to ringside to help Yokozuna get the victory.

Now if I told you that I was drafting this match because of the fact that they thought it would be best to have 15 people jump The Undertaker and have no one come out to help him, I would expect some of you to believe me. If I said it was because in addition to that, Taker's Urn was knocked over in the Merle and leaked out some green smoke for no reason, I would also expect some of you to believe me. That would seem a legit reason. But, Oh no! Those aren't the reasons. Instead of telling you the real reason that this ****nado is on my list, I'll let you enjoy it for yourselves:





Yep, that's right, not only did Taker die in that casket, he ascended to the heavens. Jack in the Box Jesus, I hope somebody lost their god damn job over this ****. I don't know what was worse. Was it the odd placement of the camera in the casket that was nowhere to be seen during the match, or was it the fact that everyone seems to think the person who was ascending to the heavens was Marty Janetty. I can't keep going, because I have another one to write up, and I need whatever of my self respect is left to get through that one.
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04-15-2017 , 06:52 PM
I was hoping that one was going to keep falling. Good pick.
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04-15-2017 , 07:06 PM
Doing back to back write ups is going to make me die inside even more than I already am, so I'll keep this one brief. Capital Combat 1990: The Return of Robocop. Wow! Holy ****! I know crossover promotion in wrestling usually bites the proverbial big one, but this was in a class of its own. I'll post the video below, but the host is that Sting gets locked in a cage by Arn Anderson, Sid Vicious, and Ole Anderson. The only person to come to Stong's aid was Robocop who broke the cage open to free Sting. Thank ****ing God! I didn't know what we would do without having Sting around to be double crossed for the next ten years.




You can sum up that whole thing with three letters: WCW

Somebody kill me now please.
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04-15-2017 , 07:11 PM
Mother****er. I went with Gobbledygooker because I decided that although Robocop was higher value, it was surer to get back to me.
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04-15-2017 , 07:15 PM
LOL Ive never actually seen the robocop segment, just saw the image of him making way to the ring. Incredible.
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04-15-2017 , 07:18 PM
Robocop is a fantastic pick. I almost picked it over Little People's Court.
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04-15-2017 , 07:22 PM
The worst thing by far about Robocop is the fact that up until that point, WCW was far better than WWF about staying away from being cartoon wrestling (with occasional exceptions). Jim Ross would self-righteously declare "we actually WRESTLE here." And then suddenly he had to put over Robocop.

Jim Cornette said that he was already furious enough about them booking Robocop for the show, but then he actually had an angle earlier in the night where he was stuck in that cage during a match, and it was so gimmicked and fragile that he was instructed not to rattle the bars of the cage or anything, because they had to make it really easy for Robocop to pull them apart. Cornette said he felt ridiculous just standing in the cage without a struggle.
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04-15-2017 , 07:25 PM
It's more fun to rag on these hilariously bad angles, but the WOAT moment in the history for me is my next pick.

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The Owen Hart Tragedy
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On May 23, 1999, Hart fell to his death in Kansas City, Missouri during the Over the Edge pay-per-view event.[58] Hart was in the process of being lowered via harness and grapple line into the ring from the rafters of Kemper Arena for a booked Intercontinental Championship match against The Godfather. In keeping with the Blazer's new "buffoonish superhero" character, he was to begin a dramatic entrance, being lowered to just above ring level, at which time he would act "entangled", then release himself from the safety harness and fall flat on his face for comedic effect—this necessitated the use of a quick release mechanism. It was an elaboration on a Blue Blazer stunt done previously on the Sunday Night Heat before Survivor Series in 1998. While being lowered into the ring, Hart fell 78 feet, landing chest-first on the top rope (approximately a foot from the nearest turnbuckle), throwing him into the ring.


I was devastated as a young child for days after this happened, and serves as a terrifying reminder of what can go wrong in the business.

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BRAWLOL FOR ALLOL
BOOKER T IS BLACK AND INFERIOR
I DID IT FOR DA ROCK
RIP OWEN


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04-15-2017 , 07:27 PM
Pretty certain the OP discussed that pick and it's not gonna be thought of as a great pick for this draft
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04-15-2017 , 08:06 PM
^ Yup.

I mean, people can go off the radar and use their own criteria and build whatever draft they want, but when it explicitly gets mentioned as what we're not looking for in the first few posts, it's hard to assign it any objective value.

That said, the pick is what it is. True North on the clock.
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04-15-2017 , 08:14 PM
Yeah, I'd go so far as to say that a repick might be in order.



Edit: Well, if the decision is made, the decision is made. But that really puts a damper on an otherwise elite team.
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04-15-2017 , 08:16 PM
Im aok with a repick. It's clearly a good pick in the grand scheme of things - one of the worst things to happen in wrestling - but boxed out from the rules of the draft. I don't really want to be searching for people dying in the ring so I can pick them etc. I'm much more hoping for nonsense.

However, not my draft. Also, not my pick. So whatever both of you wanna do.
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04-15-2017 , 08:25 PM
Well the thing is that we already have a number of picks that are barely "booking" decisions at all, at least strictly wrestling booking. Airing a tribute to Benoit, sending drunk Jeff Hardy to the ring. I didn't strike those down as invalid picks, even though I gave my personal opinion that I don't assign them as much value.

This Owen Hart situation was them trying to run a comedy segment and something going horribly wrong. I guess it doesn't strike me that it's strictly incorrect to pick it since it was an angle gone sideways in the worst; just that it's low value, because its "value" lies in something talked down at the start of the thread.

But if people think that I should open it up for a re-pick then I'm okay with that. Of course, he wouldn't be obligated to do that even if offered it.
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