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04-19-2017 , 06:06 AM
For some reason I sort of thought that Piper's Pit segment would just be available to me whenever I got around to picking it.

It was every bit as bad as Dylan says.
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04-19-2017 , 09:28 AM
I don't have time for a full writeup, so I'll just go back to TNA and pick the worst wrestling match on a major promotion PPV I've ever seen.

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04-19-2017 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
For some reason I sort of thought that Piper's Pit segment would just be available to me whenever I got around to picking it.
Same here. I also thought the same about Hot Lesbian Action.

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It was every bit as bad as Dylan says.
This too.
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04-19-2017 , 04:16 PM
Sorry, didn't put it together that it was my turn. Looks like my clock is still going, but I'll decide and pick soon.
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04-19-2017 , 04:29 PM
that piper segment is atrocious
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04-19-2017 , 04:49 PM
With my seventh pick, I select…



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Mr. McMahon, not even you know how far I would degrade myself for the right cause.


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I select one of the most uncomfortable segments that I can remember witnessing on WWF/WWE TV, Vince McMahon forces Trish Stratus to crawl around, bark like a dog, and undress.

On the 2/26/01 Raw, a tag team match was set up in which Vince McMahon was to tag with Trish Stratus to face William Regal & Stephanie McMahon. Vince ended up swerving Trish and pouring a slop bucket all over her. The following week, on the 3/5/01 Raw, Trish comes out to address what had happened, and surprises everyone by crying and saying that she's sorry and that she deserved what happened to her. Vince says that he doesn't believe her, and forces her to prove how sorry she is. He tells her that if she's really sorry, she'll get down on all fours (a position, he adds, that he's seen her in before) like a dog and bark for him. He continues, "I used to have a female dog, and that ***** did everything I told her to do." Trish obliges, crawls around on her hands and knees and then, through tears, barks into a microphone multiple times.



Vince goes on to say that he still isn't convinced that she's really sorry. He tells her that if she's really sorry, she'll take her clothes off. She absolutely does not want to, but she goes along with this as well, first shedding her jacket. He specifically demands that she take her top off. And then her skirt. She goes along with those things as well. He continues on to demand that she take her bra off, and she's seemingly going to, but then he stops her and sends her away instead.

Obviously I know what the counterpoint is against this being an awful segment: Mr. McMahon was a heel in abusing this woman, and it was presented as heel activity, as Jim Ross acted disgusted on commentary throughout the segment. But to me it still crossed a line of bad taste, and I'm really not usually the type to moralize about what gets aired during the course of a wrestling product. I think that the biggest problem is that, no matter the fact that it was presented as heelish, when Trish is unwillingly shedding her clothes, obviously the dudes in the crowd are cheering wildly for Vince as he leverages his authority to force her into doing this. And that was a totally foreseeable crowd reaction…obviously you can't count on a bunch of young male wrestling fans to boo that particular sequence. Well, they booed the part where he let up and let her leave without further degradation, but that's part of the point.

In the end, the whole thing felt gross and over the line, and to me it's certainly the type of thing that the company would get massive heat over today, with good reason.


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Draft:
Fingerpoke of Doom
Giant falls off roof, then immediately wrestles without explanation
Gobbledygooker
Undertaker murders Big Boss Man
Big Boss Man/Big Show feud
The Renegade Bait-and-Switch
Vince Degrades Trish
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04-19-2017 , 05:29 PM
High on my list, that was a pretty disgusting segment.
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04-19-2017 , 09:34 PM
Unfortunately I've been gone for most of the day and can't really spend too much time on this, so I guess it's fitting that my pick is:

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Mike Adamle as WWE announcer/GM


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I remember him being pretty good on American Gladiators and his hiring by WWE made mainstream news. It all seemed like a good idea. Then he actually got on camera and ****ed up his very first sentence, famously calling Jeff Hardy "Jeff Harvey".


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He would later make many more mistakes as he replaced Joey Styles on WWECW. Here is a sampling:


He would only last 10 months.


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PS: As I was looking for that clip, I found out that earlier this year he was diagnosed with CTE-related dementia stemming from his football days. I feel a little bad picking this now.
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04-20-2017 , 10:06 AM
Dead draft is dead
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04-20-2017 , 10:15 AM
Yeah, surprising to see how quickly this one fell apart after a hot start.

(Obviously it's not beyond salvation yet if people come back.)
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04-20-2017 , 10:21 AM
For my 1st pick, I select:

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When this draft died
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04-20-2017 , 10:37 AM
Definitely salvageable, but I think we should probably stop at 10 picks each.

I only have about 10 or so that I have any interest in picking atm, and some of those are likely to be taken by others.
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04-20-2017 , 10:40 AM
Sigh. Just as I was really getting into katfabe mode with my write ups.
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04-20-2017 , 10:43 AM
I really hope this doesn't die. I haven't finished my WCW 2000 picks or started on my TNAids picks.
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04-20-2017 , 11:16 AM
I know TN and I have at least a few more good ones in us; just skip whoever needs to be skipped and move on.
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04-20-2017 , 11:27 AM
I still have over twenty moments/angles on my board, at least three of which I don't think anyone else is going to pick at all.
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04-20-2017 , 11:29 AM
You can put me
On permanent skip or someone can take over my awful team
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04-20-2017 , 02:27 PM
I'm going to be at Poker Night in America this weekend, so my writeups may not be as detailed, but I still have a bunch of picks I plan to make.
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04-20-2017 , 02:31 PM
I think we're close enough to our pick with the skips that I'll just go ahead and make our next selection. Not many wrestling angles are offensive enough to me to get me legitimately angry; this one did.

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Ed Ferrara as "Oklahoma"

With the way Vince Russo left the WWF basically in the dead of night, you had to figure that there were probably some WWF employees that Russo held a grudge against, felt treated him unfairly, or just outright hated. While subsequent shoot interviews have uncovered several of those names, there was one name that you didn't need to be a detective to figure out pretty much immediately after they jumped.

Jim Ross.

JR, of course, was VP of Talent Relations in the Attitude Era, and held a fair amount of sway with Vince McMahon. And presumably, he would've had the ability to tell Russo no from time to time when he was head writer. Whatever happened there, Russo left the WWF with a big chip on his shoulder, and since WCW was letting him do whatever he wanted, he took advantage to air his petty grievances.

Which is how we ended up with this (not the greatest video quality):



Yes, they devoted an entire segment to mocking a beloved announcer that happened to work for the competition (not to mention Mexican wrestlers). Yes, they did manage to convince/coerce/pay off/bribe/blackmail JR's close friend, "Dr. Death" Steve Williams, to take part.

And yes, they did make fun of a man's physical disability on national TV to settle a petty grudge.

I've had Bell's Palsy myself, and the morning I woke up with it scared me like nothing else before or since. I wanted to beat the **** out of Ferrara for this, and not in the "Ted DiBiase kicks the basketball away" kind of way.

And, of course, since this was Russo we were talking about, they beat this unfunny joke into the ground for weeks, with the absolute nadir being this result at Souled Out 2000:

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4. Oklahoma d. Madusa (w/Spice) - Singles match for the WCW Cruiserweight Championship - 02:56 (DUD)
Forget it, Jake. It's 2000 WCW.
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04-20-2017 , 02:44 PM
I was going to pick that several rounds ago, but it was purely from research and I thought that someone who lived through it would be better off selecting it and writing it up. Seems like really strong value here.
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04-20-2017 , 03:26 PM
Yeah that's one of the picks on the top of my "wtf hasn't this gone yet" list. It was so ****ing low, much worse than a farting angle.
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04-20-2017 , 03:29 PM
Yeah, that's a nice pick. I was going to take that myself when it was my turn
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04-20-2017 , 05:33 PM
Oh man forgot all about that Oklahoma thing, and it was hideous.
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04-20-2017 , 07:40 PM
Chachi,
You're up for two picks.
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04-20-2017 , 08:44 PM
do i owe a pick?
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