Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
WBM All-time Match Draft WBM All-time Match Draft

02-15-2012 , 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by teejayC
Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkasaurus
If you got 2 matches that relies on homecrowd reaction in different cities, you assume both matches will have the same reaction on you draft card?
Can you answer this please LKJ.

Also, are future matches available to draft? So for example would someone on Monday be able to draft a match from this years EC?

Apologies if either of these were already addressed, couldn't find anything.
My random thoughts would be:

1. Yes, that ought to be assumed to some degree. The crowd reaction is part of the overall match IMO. Now, that said, if there's something in particular that has the crowd reacting in that way, and it's not on your card, I think that's a fair reason to dock points.

2. I would hope that matches happening after the start of the draft would not be eligible, for the obvious reasons.

3. ROH Puro ought not be their world title.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:22 PM
Oh I'm sorry, I meant for this to be a rule: no matches taking place after 2/13/12 can be drafted.

Also yes, your crowd is the crowd from the match.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:24 PM
Dylan had me scared as hell with the start of that writeup.

Hard to complain about either of those picks, obviously.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:26 PM
Obviously Taker v. HBK is the one I was a breath away from picking and erased the entire write-up post.

Basically I wanted to operate my card in a different time period, and while I thought I could get Taker v. HBK in the first and Flair v. Steamboat in the second, that doesn't look like a cohesive card to me at all given the 20 year gap. Dylan gets truly sick value here. Only downside to the picks is that those two are eating up nearly half of his time by themselves. That said, he's off to an awesome start.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:30 PM
I personally think the first HBK Taker is the best. I know others disagree. But they are wrong

Pretty much a faultless first round of the draft, you could talk about the Honky Tonk vs Warrior squash in negatives i guess but it had a ridiculous pop iirc and its so short that tactically its probably a good choice given how gorram deep the draft is and how the person left over at the end has all of history to draft from and as much time required to do it.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LKJ
Obviously Taker v. HBK is the one I was a breath away from picking and erased the entire write-up post.

Basically I wanted to operate my card in a different time period, and while I thought I could get Taker v. HBK in the first and Flair v. Steamboat in the second, that doesn't look like a cohesive card to me at all given the 20 year gap. Dylan gets truly sick value here. Only downside to the picks is that those two are eating up nearly half of his time by themselves. That said, he's off to an awesome start.
Yeah I'm actually ok with them taking up half my time because the other matches I have in mine aren't too long. Oh and that has to be the greatest butnahhh in 2+2 history .
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:35 PM
Hindsight is 20:20 - but I should have gone with HBK / Taker in the 1st and swiped the BatB 6-man in the 2nd round. Oh well. I love Rock / Austin - but that HAS to be the main event of a card, and I really did want the nWo formation as my main event.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:37 PM
My second round selections is:



Spoiler:
Bruiser Brody and Stan Hansen vs. Dory and Terry Funk - PWF World Tag Team Championship Match - Match Time: 18:57

In such an open-ended draft and having a low-degree of certainty in which way people are leaning, I'm going to reach way, way up to grab this match just to make sure I get it.

This was the first match I penciled into my "dream card" because it's just such a great example of great tag team wrestling. All four are tremendous wrestlers and they put on a great show (even a past-his-prime Dory). I think whatever value I possibly lose by picking it this high is made up for the fact that I get an awesome tag team match with no gimmicks, and I get four great wrestlers without eating up any true main eventers.

My card:

Magnum TA vs. Tully Blanchard - NWA US Title "I Quit Match" (14:43)
Bruiser Brody and Stan Hansen vs. Dory and Terry Funk - PWF World Tag Team Championship Match (18:57)

Total Match Time: 33:40
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:37 PM
Yeah, Pure and X-Division titles obv shouldn't be world titles. That would be like classing the cruiserweight or hardcore titles as world titles.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:38 PM
Yankeys' pulling out Stan Hanson matches, I love it!
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trevorwc
Hindsight is 20:20 - but I should have gone with HBK / Taker in the 1st and swiped the BatB 6-man in the 2nd round. Oh well. I love Rock / Austin - but that HAS to be the main event of a card, and I really did want the nWo formation as my main event.
Yeah I agree, you kinda can't have both Austin/Rock and NWO formation on your card. Both have to be the main event, I love the NWO pick btw, it's arguably the biggest moment in wrestling history.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:46 PM
Wasnt the NWO formation the so called fingerpoke of doom?

(not being a nit or whatever, just curious, i dont think ive ever seen a WCW show in full)
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by [Phill]
Isnt the NWO formation the so called fingerpoke of doom?


nWo formation was at Bash at the Beach 1996. Fingerpoke of doom was a world title match on Nitro in 1999 between Hogan and Nash, a week or two after Nash had ended Goldberg's streak, in which Hogan poked Nash in the chest, Nash fell down and Hogan got the pin. Totally different moments.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by [Phill]
Wasnt the NWO formation the so called fingerpoke of doom?

(not being a nit or whatever, just curious, i dont think ive ever seen a WCW show in full)
FOD was the night after Starrcade when Nash booked himself to end Goldbergs streak by tazzing him. The very next night on Nitro Nash defended the title against Hogan, Hogan poked Nash in the stomach and Nash let Hogan pin him. The formation of the NWO was at Bash at the Beach when Hogan joined the Outsiders (Hall and Nash) and turned heel.

Last edited by Dylan; 02-15-2012 at 03:50 PM. Reason: slow pony
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LKJ
I'm so ignorant about ROH that I'd be happy to hear other opinions about my ruling on that. I also am ignorant about TNA, so ditto on the previous sentence for the following: yes, the x-division is a midcard belt.
The ROH Pure championship was brought in as a midcard title because they did not yet have a TV championship so it was designed like the IC and US belts.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:51 PM
The NWO did go from being two separate, rival factions to being a reunited one after the finger poke, however.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:53 PM
Quote:
Bruiser Brody and Stan Hansen vs. Dory and Terry Funk - PWF World Tag Team Championship Match - Match Time: 18:57
nice to see this match get some love
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan
Yankeys' pulling out Stan Hanson matches, I love it!
I'm pretty sure that this would have been available significantly later. Of course, if there's a direction in mind and all the matches fit that category, may as well take the one you like the most.

But what do I know? I'm half of the team that took the ****ing Honky Tonk Man in round 1.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 03:58 PM
Nash booking himself to end Goldberg's streak, then losing the title to Hogan the next night to a finger poke was dumb, but it wasn't supposed to be as bad as it turned out. The plan was to build the NWO back up to being this really strong heel faction again, and have Goldberg fued with them. The problem was a week after the finger poke of doom, Goldberg busted out the window of a limo with his hand and nearly lost his arm. So Goldberg was out for like 6 months so they had to completely kill the angle.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 04:00 PM
Plus they were nice enough to have Nash vs. Hogan on free TV. That would have been an easy good draw main event at a PPV; people could have ended up paying for the fingerpoke.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 04:01 PM
Okay, that ROH belt is a midcard title. Thanks for the help everyone. I love that matches that I've never seen have left the board already, and I'm looking forward to watching them.

I'll get a pick up relatively soon. I think it could be a slight reach, but I think it fits very nicely with my first pick.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 04:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by moorobot
Plus they were nice enough to have Nash vs. Hogan on free TV. That would have been an easy good draw main event at a PPV; people could have ended up paying for the fingerpoke.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 04:07 PM
I hope my turn doesn't come up too quickly as I have no time to watch any matches today and part of my motivation for taking part in this is rewatching great matches I haven't seen for years. I had an idea for my 2nd pick that involved an awesome tag match that I haven't seen in 10 years, unfortunately when I saw it again 2 days ago I realised it was sloppy as **** and not as great as I remembered so now I'm looking for something else to pick next.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 04:09 PM
With the 18th pick, I select...



v.



Spoiler:


Bret Hart v. Mr. Perfect, King of the Ring '93 - 18:56

Another great technical masterpiece between two Hall of Fame headliners. This was four years later than Flair/Steamboat, but it appeals to the same type of wrestling sensibility and is an absolute classic that meshes nicely with it.

LKJFest I:
NWA Title: Ric Flair (c) v. Ricky Steamboat (Chi-town Rumble '89)
Bret Hart v. Mr. Perfect (KOTR '93)
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote
02-15-2012 , 04:11 PM
v nice pick LKJ. my original plan was to take a world title #2 and grab perfect v hart in round 2 but i didnt think id be able to.
WBM All-time Match Draft Quote

      
m