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02-25-2012 , 03:23 PM
Sorry it's taken me awhile to get a playlist together, but here it is!

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC9B952DC80E02938

(If someone watches it, please let me know if there are any issues)

Clocking in at 3:01:11, this will be the greatest wrestling show you will ever see.

Here is the line up:

WCW Cruiserweight Championship, Mask vs Title: Eddy Guerrero (c) vs Rey Mistero Jr.

Chris Benoit vs Raven

Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels

WWF Tag Team Champinship, Tables, Ladders and Chairs: Edge and Christian (c) vs The Dudley Boyz vs The Hardy Boyz

WCW World Television Championship: Sting (c) vs The Great Muta

WWF Intercontinental Championship: "Macho Man" Randy Savage (c) vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat

War Games: The Four Horsemen (Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Lex Luger, JJ Dillon) vs Dusty Rhodes, The Road Warriors (Animal and Hawk), Nikita Koloff, Paul Ellering

World Wrestling Federation Championship: Triple H (c) w/ Stephanie McMahon and Vince McMahon vs The Rock (Special Guest Referee Shane McMahon)
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02-25-2012 , 03:38 PM
This is hilarious but my least favorite match on your card in your main event and Im gonna go out on a limb and say Wargames should go on last
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02-25-2012 , 08:40 PM
There's no way I can finish with anything other than Rock and Austin celebrating together in the ring as the crowd is going nuts.
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02-25-2012 , 09:19 PM
I would have taken Wargames but I thought I was gonna end up with a Flair match on my card
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02-26-2012 , 04:22 AM
Here is my playlist - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...C&feature=plcp

Savage/Warrior isn't on youtube so after their pre-match promos you'll have to click this link - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjs...emania-7_sport

My Card:

WWF Championship
Hulk Hogan (c) vs Andre The Giant - Wrestlemania 3

Hell in a Cell
Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker - Badd Blood: In Your House

Women's Championship
Trish Stratus (c) vs Mickie James - Wrestlemania 22

NWA Championship
Ricky Steamboat (c) vs Ric Flair - Landover House Show 3/18/89

Steel Cage Match
Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Vince McMahon - St. Valentine's Day Massacre

Retirement Match
Randy Savage vs Ultimate Warrior - Wrestlemania 7

Bootcamp Match
Sgt. Slaughter vs The Iron Sheik - MSG 6/16/84

I could have done with a couple of filler matches but I didn't leave myself enough time so I have six main events and a women's match, meh. I threw Hogan's WM4 promo in there because I couldn't find either of his WM3 ones on youtube and he is still talking about fighting Andre, plus it features the epic backstroke.

And yeah, the ring magically gets fixed between McMahon/Austin and Flair/Steamboat. Deal with it.
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02-27-2012 , 12:54 AM
Sorry I'm a little behind on this, I got stuck with work out of town. Also, due to the numerous dailymotion vids, I decided not to do a playlist, hopefully this isn't hard to follow.

WORLD-WIDE WORLD-CLASS CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING IS PROUD TO PRESENT WRESTLECADIA: Suspension of Disbelief!

Dark Match: Kerry von Erich vs. Greg Valentine

Background: Two young, second-generation, potential stars face off one-in-one in front of their first of many huge crowds.

Match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdWgXZjjSQo

Dark Match: Hollywood Blonds vs. Z-Man and Johnny Gunn

Background: The careers of former tag team partners Flyin' Brian and Z-Man have gone in opposite directions since the duo split. Flyin' Brian with new partner Stunning Steve Austin have lit the tag team scene on fire and are currently the number 1 contenders for the World Tag Team Titles, while Z-man has struggled to find a lasting partnership. He hopes his new friendship with Johnny Gunn can derail the Hollywood Blonds in their pursuit of the gold.

Match: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6h...nk-and-j_sport

Super J Cup Finals: Wild Pegasus vs. The Great Sasuke

Background: WWWCCW has taken on the mandate of not only providing the best in professional wrestling for its loyal fans, but also to take on the task of promoting and showcasing the best wrestlers from around the world. With this in mind, WWWCCW sanctioned the first ever Super J Cup, a unique invitational tournament of the best Juniors from around the world. Fourteen men started off, but only two remain.

Gary Hart Interview

Background: Last week Gary Hart issued a challenge on behalf of The Great Kabuki for anyone within the WWWCCW to face him in a match. Fan favorite, "The Boogie Woogie Man" himself, Jimmy Valiant answered that challenge and got a decisive victory. The after-match festivities led to The Great Kabuki spraying Jimmy Valiant in the face with a mysterious red mist, and now Jimmy Valiant is out of action indefinitely. Gary Hart is here to tell his side of the story.

Segment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g-Uxr1a5gU

Texas Tornado Tag Team Match: Steve Williams and Ted DiBiase with Skandor Akbar vs. Jim Duggan and Terry Gordy

Background: Ted DiBiase seemed destined for a showdown over the NWA United States Heavyweight Championship until a bout with Jim Duggan, who dominated him in front of a capacity crowd in Birmingham, Alabama. Manager Skandor Akbar, never one to take a loss lying down, focused his Devastation, Inc. on destroying Jim Duggan and re-clearing DiBiase's path to championship gold. Jim Duggan was rescued from a three-on-one beatdown at the hands of DiBiase, Akbar, and fellow Devastation, Inc-ster Steve Williams by Terry Gordy, which led to this unique Texas Tornado Tag Team Match.

Match: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xca...vs-jim-d_sport

Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage Promo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIjhPDp9Dmo

Ricky Steamboat vs. The Great Muta

Background: The mysterious Great Muta has become a dominant force within the WWWCCW since his arrival. His blend of martial arts, innovative aerial moves, and frequent use of weapons and a blinding mist have led him into the WWF Championship picture. His opponent is the incomparable Ricky Steamboat, one of the most popular and highly respected wrestlers in the world. Steamboat is at the top of his game and is looking to reach the pinnacle of the sport for the first time in his career and earn a shot at the WWF Title.

Ric Flair challenges Mr. Perfect from one week ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...7zE7389E#t=87s

Retirement Match: Ric Flair vs. Mr. Perfect

Background: Ric Flair joined the WWWCCW with Mr. Perfect and manager Bobby Heenan at his side. Ric Flair's rise to become a two-time WWF Champion might not have happened without his "Executive Consultant" Mr. Perfect in fact. Now, with Mr. Perfect healthy again and looking to return to his past glory, Ric Flair and Bobby Heenan seemed more intent on holding him back than returning the favor of support. The slights finally took their toll on Mr. Perfect and he could no longer survive in the shadow of "the Nature Boy," which leads us to this epic battle, where the loser of the match will be forced to retire from wrestling!

match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlvLhUQ1-Yw

Terry Funk "Retirement" Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V16Pe2hjTB8

PWF World Tag Team Championship: Stan Hansen and Bruiser Brody vs. Terry and Dory Funk

Background: The rivalry between Stan Hansen and Terry Funk is seemingly as old and as intertwined with the history of professional wrestling as the turnbuckle. One year ago, it seemed as if Terry Funk had finally had enough, as he, bloodied and battered, gave his emotional retirement announcement. Stan Hansen, and current tag team partner Bruiser Brody, wouldn't leave well enough alone though and their countless attacks and mockery of the legendary Funk family have brought Terry and Dory back to the ring in this monumentous bout.

Tully Blanchard and Magnum TA video package:

The last time we seen these two men together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEIQI...tailpage#t=24s

Steel Cage "I Quit" Match for the NWA United States Heavyweight Championship: Tully Blanchard with Babydoll vs. Magnum TA

Background: Even in the ever-volatile world of professional wrestling these two men have reached unprecendented levels of hatred. The rivalry between Tully Blanchard and Magnum TA will finally and decisively reach its conclusion at Wrestlecadia when one man will force the other to say "I Quit" in front of thousands of fans, the ultimate sign of humiliation and defeat.

Mega-Powers Explode Video Package:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4d...ode_shortfilms

Macho Man Randy Savage Pre-Match Promo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrlSz-Xxo50

Hulk Hogan Pre-Match Interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbIF5QTqQAA


THE MAIN EVENT: MEGA-POWERS EXPLODE

]WWF CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH: Mach Man" Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan (with Miss Elizabeth at Ringside)

Background: What needs to be said that everyone doesn't already know? Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage joined forces to become the most dominant force in wrestling history eliminating the evil forces within the WWWCCW one by one. But, it all took an ugly turn as Randy Savage grew suspicious of Hogan and Miss Elizabeth growing closer and closer together. The relationship was further strained when Hulk Hogan accidentally eliminated Randy Savage in a battle royale, and then finally reached its boiling point when Hulk Hogan took Miss Eliabeth backstage for medical attention leaving Savage to battle a tag team on his own. Hogan eventually returned, but Savage had had enough and later as Hogan walked in on a Savage tirade directed at Miss Elizabeth it was obvious that there were deep fractures in the once tight friendship. It has all led to this match-up, as the Mega-Powers finally explode.
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02-27-2012 , 10:09 AM
By the way, I originally had designs on taking Rude v. Warrior, and was devastated for not being able to do so mostly because I could also draft this later if I had.

(There weren't any other PPV examples of Rude holding the IC title.)
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02-27-2012 , 11:30 PM
One of my matches isn't even around on the internets right now and a couple others were from dailymotion (and another only accessible if you have the link) so I'm not going to bother making a playlist either.


Toyota vs. Kong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdDkWdkbWZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWxjP...eature=related

Rage in a Cage

Magnum TA anti-authority face promo and Nikita response to Magnum being stripped
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWe9LNKOTKA

Freebirds vs. Von Erichs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY9MjLJMJTo

Mauler vs. Doll interrupted by Hall
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5l...ott-hall_sport

Angle vs. HBK

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4q...le-wrestl_news
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4q...le-wrestl_news

Dusty Rhodes promo on Road Warriors injuring his eye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5a8NHgZkPY

Austin vs. Rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpnguWQgmf0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgCB6...dPieCTrqrP6wcd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNznc...A1XImFi36zDxVy

Flair vs. Steamboat
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...ature=view_all

Hogan vs. Andre

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITDMD3P6T9w#t=11m46s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv4pRhQTW04
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02-29-2012 , 04:10 PM
Alright well I guess the others aren't going to finish picking so I'll post my top 3 now.

3. LordCC- The Do Fixers/Blood Generation alone makes me put it in my top 3. I had never seen it before and that may be the best actual wrestling I've ever seen in a match. The rest of the card is extremely strong too.

2. Littlekeed- The card from top to bottom is just really solid. It has the classic wrestling matches with Y2J/HBK, the Cruiserweight match, it also has the gimmick matches for the spot lovers with TLC and War Games, then to top it off it has the big draw match with HHH/Rock.

1. teeJayC- Such a sick card. The Flair/Steamboat house show match got 6 stars right? HBK/Taker will be such a huge draw because it's the first HIAC ever, plus it's a 5 star match. Andre/Hogan is maybe the biggest drawing match of all time, so that just tops the card off perfectly. That's not even mentioning Savage/Warrior and Vince/Austin which are also huge draws.
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02-29-2012 , 04:41 PM


Will post my top three at some point, been pretty busy so still gotta watch through the cards. And yeah, the Flair/Steamboat match got 6 stars from Meltzer.

Also, not had time to read through the other threads so I'm just gonna say here that Dwayne is the WOAT and lol @ you if you're still supporting him over Cena. Also no chance it is all a work ordered by Vince to make Dwayne look lame and stupid.
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02-29-2012 , 04:49 PM
I will also be delayed in getting my votes up, because I need to find the time to watch all of the unwatched matches. Will definitely be revisiting the thread and voting though.
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02-29-2012 , 05:23 PM
Can we mention undrafteds now?
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02-29-2012 , 05:35 PM
Yeah go ahead. Hempy never finished his team, but as far as I'm concerned this draft is over and undrafteds can be mentioned freely.
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02-29-2012 , 05:52 PM
Here are some matches that I think would have been good value picks in this draft, some of which I'm pretty surprised didn't go

Bret Hart vs. Chris Benoit Nitro ~1999 Owen Hart tribute.

Amidst the wasteland and the shock TV of WCW at the time, these two put on a classic.

Benoit/Angle vs. Edge/Rey 2002 No Mercy

Midnight Express vs. Southern Boys 1990 Great American Bash
Eaton and Lane once again show that when they feel like it, they can make any opponent look great (like the Flair of heel tag teams). Great action and timing.

Eddie Guerrero and Art Barr vs Santo and Octagon 1994

For my money this is the best match Eddie was ever involved in.

Dynamite Kid vs Tiger Mask 1983
This is still a match of the year candidate today, and in terms of influencing future wrestling few can compare to the Dynamite/Tiger matches.
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02-29-2012 , 06:05 PM
I was going to try to do an all TV card. Only pick matches that were on Nitro , Raw, Smackdown or some other TV show. The facemelters I was planning on picking with my first two picks were Goldberg/Hogan and Mankind/Rock. But when HBK/Taker WM 25 and The Rock/Austin WM X7 fell to me with the last pick I couldn't pass them up.
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02-29-2012 , 06:10 PM
Benoit vs HBK vs HHH from WM not going was the surprise of the draft for me.
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02-29-2012 , 06:11 PM
I nearly planned to take Hogan vs. Sting, the Main Event in the best selling non-WWE ppv of all time, Starrcade 1997. It's a terrible match technically, though not quite as bad as the main event in the 2nd best selling non-WWE ppv of all time, namely Hogan and Rodman vs. DDP and Malone.
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02-29-2012 , 06:50 PM
As for voting, I'm hesitant to just provide an overall vote. I can vote on whose card I think would draw the best, however, and maybe later vote on whose card I'd most like to see personally. I don't think there is a sensible way to combine all the different criteria into one overall score.

3. LKJ. Classic tried and true strategy of star power at the top and a variety of quality matches and promos the rest of the way.
2. Teejay. Hogan/Andre+

And 1....
Dylan. The only way one could outdraw the NWO parody of the Horsemen would be to show footage of Bischoff's backstage comment to Ric Flair: "You could roll Arn Anderson in crap and he wouldn't draw a fly".
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02-29-2012 , 07:03 PM
I don't think it's too terribly different to grade from a rubric like...

Match Quality: X/10.0
Promo/Non-Match Segment Quality: X/10.0
Card Drawing Power X/5.0
Card Cohesiveness: X/5.0
Intangibles: Positive/Negative Bonus Points

Everyone can obviously set their own criteria as well as their own weighting, but that's about how I'd grade each card.
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02-29-2012 , 07:04 PM
Also without even remembering most of Dylan's card off the top of my head, I will look for every reason in the world not to vote for it as top three because of the hideous nWo segment.
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02-29-2012 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by moorobot
As for voting, I'm hesitant to just provide an overall vote. I can vote on whose card I think would draw the best, however, and maybe later vote on whose card I'd most like to see personally. I don't think there is a sensible way to combine all the different criteria into one overall score.

3. LKJ. Classic tried and true strategy of star power at the top and a variety of quality matches and promos the rest of the way.
2. Teejay. Hogan/Andre+

And 1....
Dylan. The only way one could outdraw the NWO parody of the Horsemen would be to show footage of Bischoff's backstage comment to Ric Flair: "You could roll Arn Anderson in crap and he wouldn't draw a fly".
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02-29-2012 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Also without even remembering most of Dylan's card off the top of my head, I will look for every reason in the world not to vote for it as top three because of the hideous nWo segment.
But promo was so good...
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02-29-2012 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
I don't think it's too terribly different to grade from a rubric like...

Match Quality: X/10.0
Promo/Non-Match Segment Quality: X/10.0
Card Drawing Power X/5.0
Card Cohesiveness: X/5.0
Intangibles: Positive/Negative Bonus Points

Everyone can obviously set their own criteria as well as their own weighting, but that's about how I'd grade each card.
No way promo quality is as important as match quality and twice as important as drawing power. I'll probably just give drawing power and match quality the same weighting and then maybe give and take away bonus points for other stuff.
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02-29-2012 , 07:20 PM
I was just laying out an example. You're probably right. It will take until I start grading to really see what feels like the best weighting for a grading system.
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02-29-2012 , 07:21 PM
And when I say "you're probably right," I was of course not referring to Dylan.

Unless of course his trailing off dots were meant to lead into "so good...as evidence that Kevin Nash should have been shanked years ago."
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