Does Tommy Dreamer have some sort of family connection in the industry that I don't know about? It's never made sense that he lasted even one year in the industry, let alone the 25 or so that he's now been around for. Just completely and utterly talentless. At least with Sandman it was understandable how he got over with zero talent, since he was gifted a gimmick that appeals to the lowest common denominator and that was particularly well-suited to ECW. But Dreamer was just...the white meat babyface without any personality or charisma or anything but an average look, and who also couldn't work in the ring worth a damn?
Not only all of that, but Dreamer has been so beloved by the fans (and even people in the industry from what I have read or heard) that he's probably the only guy since Ricky Steamboat who was never a heel in his entire career.
Having not seen this yet, I'm shocked that Dreamer would have said something worthy of being fired. Something dumb he should apologize for, fine. Something malicious and offensive enough to lose his job...wow!
I'm also starting to wonder if this is the beginning of the end of the show. If they did something that takes down Dreamer and Flair, who's going to want to give them candid interviews now? They might be next.
I was going to add Rey Mysterio to that short list, but it looks like he had a heel turn for a time late in WCW's existence. I'm sure that was something.
Brian, Jim's co-host, generally makes a lot of sense and will try to reign Jim in when his views or statements start trending more politically incorrect, though it's generally an extremely liberally leaning show in most respects.
“There has to be something said for intent.” - Jim
This was addressed at the end of the doc. The attendant herself said that she did not believe Flair was trying to rape her. That’s the whole point she was trying to get across. No, a lot of these guys did not intend harm with their antics, but they’ve still left a lot of wreckage in their wake.
This is something that Dreamer, a father and a husband, should be sympathetic to in 2021. Victims should be allowed to voice their discomfort regardless of the perpetrator’s intent.
Considering this is a man who once "shoot" attacked Bischoff in the locker room with working punches, she probably just had to slap him, he would have Flair flopped, gigged and that woulda been the end of it.
I loved the Glacier/Mortis stuff as a kid, tuned out of wrestling before his WWE run. I know they were going rougher at the time, but that chair shot was pretty ****ed up.
The last two were great episodes detailing two people I knew very little about. Biker gang stuff was wild. Luna Vachon really got a raw deal from Vince & co.
After the plane ride episode, several contributors complained about bad edits and some (JR) said they wouldn't be a part of it anymore. It's possible the stories (or the storytellers) dried up. I had read they might be doing something with the Rock concerning the territory days, which, ironically, JR said he was involved in.
This is something that Dreamer, a father and a husband, should be sympathetic to in 2021. Victims should be allowed to voice their discomfort regardless of the perpetrator’s intent.
I am from a progressive but I agree with this 100%
The flip side is helplessly they feel threatened over what a reasonable person would say is nothing