did cole just accidentally spoil the match?

Are we supposed to forget that Y2J was the 1st unified champion?

probably, i try to zone him out when i watch for the most part. what exactly did he say?

if wrestling were real and this was actually how the match played out cena and orton would be the 2 stupidest people alive

spanish announce table spot ftw

borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringggggggggggggggggggggggg gggggggggg

totally beyond me why anyone doesnt like orton's in ring work.

promos and booking i can accept

he took the screens on the spanish announce table out just in case he got countered in to an aa so he would get hurt less?

so far the worst TLC match i can remember having watched

I think Cena's wearing Hulkster underwear.

really disappointed they didn't make that an RKO spot. that woulda been ****ing sick

His ringwork is fine. He just falls into the tier of "can only work good matches with good workers." Cena is lower in the same tier. Two wrestlers within this tier against each other is generally not a formula for anything that great unless it has optimal atmosphere (see: Hogan vs. Rock).

ugh i hate handcuff spots

LMAO

I believe you're forgetting that Miz and Lawler did one on Raw a few years ago.

OVERCOME THE ODDS

HOW WILL CENA OVERCOME THE ODDS

"ow my thumb!"

oh ya!

Cue HHH music in...

they always forget they can unscrew the turnbuckle until the last minute despite it happening so many times before

HE'S OVERCOMING THE ODDS

......

Name a match where Orton has carried an inferior worker to a good match, instead of the other way around.

Orton's lucky enough to be a big enough name and have the kind of physique that means he usually gets paired with guys who are technically proficient and can work good matches. He's also been a heel most of his career so he's never had to work with big men like Kane, Big Show or Khali for any length of time.

He's certainly not awful, and he can do everything that's asked of him. I'm not an Orton hater at all. But I've seen tons of his matches, and not once have I ever thought "wow, Orton really shined in that one" or "Orton really carried that match". He's just never that motivated to go above and beyond what's necessary because he never needs to be. He's not gonna sink below a certain level of popularity now, no matter how much he sucks. He's got no incentive to improve.

I guess everyone's main complaint isn't that he sucks in general, it's that he sucks for someone who's reached such a level of success.

did cena just break his leg?