Wrestling Podcasts
12-28-2015
, 05:53 PM
01-26-2016
, 07:02 PM
01-28-2016
, 05:35 AM
The past week or so I've been listening to the WM 30 week journey for a second time while grinding poker. I'm on VII right now. I like them up until they hit "the deep dive". Sometimes a bit too obnoxious but meh. I like hearing what was going on behind the scenes at the time and also hearing Meltzer on the WM and now the Starrcade shows.
Searched your name itt so I'm going to go check out your stuff
01-28-2016
, 11:13 AM
01-28-2016
, 11:14 AM
If you want an accessible entry point, try one of our recent Where the Big Boys Play reviews -- Beach Blast #92 maybe. We start every review going through the relevent Observers between the last show and this one, and then review the card. It takes 2 hours, not 5.
For reasons I don't entirely understand, on their past few shows they have called us out and seem to want to start a podcast war.
I am told that on a recent show they read out a forum post I wrote in which I gave (really some pretty good advice) to a young guy who was asking how to make his own podcast more successful in a mocking voice. I thought it was a basically sensible post.
For the record, here is what I wrote:
Now, our feed has had over 450,000 plays and 33,000 downloads. I felt this advice was coming from a good place.
Yet apparently they spent almost 20 minutes of a recent show ****ting all over it.
I dunno, for stuff like that they have zero respect in the circles I move in.
For reasons I don't entirely understand, on their past few shows they have called us out and seem to want to start a podcast war.
I am told that on a recent show they read out a forum post I wrote in which I gave (really some pretty good advice) to a young guy who was asking how to make his own podcast more successful in a mocking voice. I thought it was a basically sensible post.
For the record, here is what I wrote:
Quote:
I have some pointers here, at least ones I've always held to myself. These aren't directed at anyone in particular, just things I'd recommend to anyone looking to make a podcast more successful.
1. USP. What is your unique selling point? When I started WTBBP, for example, I knew that the WWF PPVs chronologically had been done already -- by Scott and Justin on the Place to Be podcast -- but WCW PPVs had not been done. And that is still the only podcast on the net to start at Starrcade 83 and move forward. So there has to be a novel hook in and of itself around the show concept -- just "talking about wrestling" won't cut it, because well, Meltzer, Austin and so on are right there. Need to have something to make someone tune in, in the first place. In wrestling, modern WWE is going to be the most saturated area, and so to carve out a unique niche might be difficult.
2. Focus. So you've got them to actually listen through the USP, but then you have to actually get them to keep listening. I think a lot of people on homebrew shows spend too much time shooting the **** at the top -- I try to get down to business no later than 3 minutes in. Most people don't tune in to hear guys shooting the ****, they want actual content. So stick to the topic and stay focused on that topic. People have downloaded primiarily because of that USP, not because they want to hear your political views, how funny you are, or anything else.
3. Get the stuff over, not yourself over. Again, content is king, and that is the focus, your personality will come through naturally via discussion of that, but it is never the selling point of the show. Remember hardcore fans turned off Jim Cornette podcasts in their droves because he didn't understand this and point 2, and he's Jim Cornette. None of us are Jim Cornette.
4. Maintain good production values / audio quality. If you record in an actual radio studio, this won't be an issue, but as annoying as technical complaints are for podcast producers, if you can't spend the time trying to ensure the audio quality is as good as possible, then you can't expect people to spend their time listening.
5. Be consistent, keep going and don't obsess over listening numbers. The drive for doing a show should not be to grab listeners, it should first and foremost be because you enjoy doing it. If there is something worth listening to, it will find its audience. I have honestly maintained that I don't care at all how many people do and don't listen. Shows will find their natural audience. The one listener who actually cares about what you are discussing is probably worth more than 10 complete randoms. WTBBP has more than twice the listenership of All Japan Excite Series, for example, I don't care. I am having fun exploring 90s AJPW and those people who listen to that show de facto share that interest. Titans of Wrestling discusses an era and promotion that 90%+ of fans, hardcore or otherwise, do not give a **** about. It has still found an audience. But it's just plugging away.
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I think advice out there tends to focus on marketing, visibility, social media and so on -- none of these things have ever been a core focus for PWO-PTBN Podcast Network, I mean there's a bit, but the core focus is on content and quality. I maintain that there's no point concentrating on marketing if the core product isn't worth listening to.
Anyway, just my two cents. People have different philosphies, but that's mine. "Success" is also relative. I'd rather have 10 dedicated listeners to 100 I never hear from. You aren't ever going to draw numbers like a Steve Austin.
1. USP. What is your unique selling point? When I started WTBBP, for example, I knew that the WWF PPVs chronologically had been done already -- by Scott and Justin on the Place to Be podcast -- but WCW PPVs had not been done. And that is still the only podcast on the net to start at Starrcade 83 and move forward. So there has to be a novel hook in and of itself around the show concept -- just "talking about wrestling" won't cut it, because well, Meltzer, Austin and so on are right there. Need to have something to make someone tune in, in the first place. In wrestling, modern WWE is going to be the most saturated area, and so to carve out a unique niche might be difficult.
2. Focus. So you've got them to actually listen through the USP, but then you have to actually get them to keep listening. I think a lot of people on homebrew shows spend too much time shooting the **** at the top -- I try to get down to business no later than 3 minutes in. Most people don't tune in to hear guys shooting the ****, they want actual content. So stick to the topic and stay focused on that topic. People have downloaded primiarily because of that USP, not because they want to hear your political views, how funny you are, or anything else.
3. Get the stuff over, not yourself over. Again, content is king, and that is the focus, your personality will come through naturally via discussion of that, but it is never the selling point of the show. Remember hardcore fans turned off Jim Cornette podcasts in their droves because he didn't understand this and point 2, and he's Jim Cornette. None of us are Jim Cornette.
4. Maintain good production values / audio quality. If you record in an actual radio studio, this won't be an issue, but as annoying as technical complaints are for podcast producers, if you can't spend the time trying to ensure the audio quality is as good as possible, then you can't expect people to spend their time listening.
5. Be consistent, keep going and don't obsess over listening numbers. The drive for doing a show should not be to grab listeners, it should first and foremost be because you enjoy doing it. If there is something worth listening to, it will find its audience. I have honestly maintained that I don't care at all how many people do and don't listen. Shows will find their natural audience. The one listener who actually cares about what you are discussing is probably worth more than 10 complete randoms. WTBBP has more than twice the listenership of All Japan Excite Series, for example, I don't care. I am having fun exploring 90s AJPW and those people who listen to that show de facto share that interest. Titans of Wrestling discusses an era and promotion that 90%+ of fans, hardcore or otherwise, do not give a **** about. It has still found an audience. But it's just plugging away.
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I think advice out there tends to focus on marketing, visibility, social media and so on -- none of these things have ever been a core focus for PWO-PTBN Podcast Network, I mean there's a bit, but the core focus is on content and quality. I maintain that there's no point concentrating on marketing if the core product isn't worth listening to.
Anyway, just my two cents. People have different philosphies, but that's mine. "Success" is also relative. I'd rather have 10 dedicated listeners to 100 I never hear from. You aren't ever going to draw numbers like a Steve Austin.
Yet apparently they spent almost 20 minutes of a recent show ****ting all over it.
I dunno, for stuff like that they have zero respect in the circles I move in.
01-28-2016
, 11:22 AM
01-28-2016
, 04:24 PM
I will subscribe today and listen on my commute home lord
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