Holds MITB briefcase for a year

Cashes for a huuuuuge reaction

Loses first title defense

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is this real?

and come on they are obv restrapping zig

probably just think he will work better as a chasing face; they can also put him over as a real champion once he wins it legit rather than cashing in, which has always been a bit heelish

I was live at the PPV. Just got home. I thought it was pretty solid. Not as good at MITB in 2011 but still pretty good.

There wasn't really a bad match. Divas match was quite good IMO. Crowd was heavily pro-Ambrose and pro-Ziggler. Not sure it was an intentional double turn but it felt that way live. Daniel Bryan wasn't as over live as he has seemed to be on TV.

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will be a lil upset if this isn't a work

It has to be the blowoff. What else could they do? But of course WWE doesn't know when/how to end feuds so it'll probably continue.

I also hope the shield move onto new opponents tomorrow. And Jericho and Punk should be done as well - they didn't really have a blowoff but they feuded last year and it is too soon for them to have another drawn out feud imo.

We could see some fresh angles soon. I'm hopeful.

pretty sure this was a blowoff for most.

y2j im sure was just there to give punk a hometown match, no plan for feud.

However, Cena is still yet to pin ryback. so i guess it could happen again.


Also sounds like gg mark henry.

ugh please no

give us a couple more years mark and one more title run please

The show blew my expectations out of the water. Really interested to see where they go with Ziggler.

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This turned out to be surprisingly good. Only have issues with ADR winning the title and the lol ending to an already somwhat lame main event. I really dislike Cena's dead -> quick AA -> dead routine though, annoys me every time.

Given he cant kick out of a ****ing cover at 2 without telegraphing it half a second earlier I can forgive him for running the same tired plays over and over.

Its been a few hours since I watched and I still dont get ADR going over. Ziggler retaining is completely standard the way that match was booked.

The double turn doesn't really work if Ziggler still wins the match imo. I think they're just having him lose the belt so he can be the face pursuer. I imagine he'll have it back fairly soon.

can someone explain the adr/zigz turn for me? i didnt watch

Ziggler was selling the effects of the concussion and ADR kept kicking him in the head, even when he was getting medical attention ringside. The announcers really hammered home that ADR was going too far and that Ziggler was fighting valiantly, refusing to give up, etc. At the end ADR superkicked him again and pinned him, Ziggler went to the back and was crying, then ADR came out and gave a heelish promo to the crowd about how he is their champion.

Anyways, don't get what's so confusing about ADR winning -- he cements himself more as a heel if he wins the belt in somewhat dirty/heelish fashion, and Ziggler will cement himself more as a face when he wins it legitimately instead of via MITB.

Just watching this now, so shall edit with my thoughts.

ADR as champ? Oh **** off please. The bloke is incredibly boring.

i missed most of the PPV sadly and only saw the aids parts. so i should not have labeled the entire thing an aids per view as apparently it was really good! i might even end up watching Raw tonight.

So, easy download and forget about the main event?

That's it. I skipped through the main event and you miss nothing.

Who the hell is writing these absurd endings to Cena and Rybore? First we have the confusing ending at Extreme Rules given it was a last man standing, now they make ambulances out of tin foil?

Alright, we get it isn't real, but serously? Ripping sides off the ambulance and hitting Cena over the head is possible how exactly?