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10-06-2010 , 05:08 PM
Here is what id do if i could book the show. Personally id have Cena somehow cost Orton the title at Bragging Rights and build a pretty huge Nexus story out of that building all the way to WM after Cena somehow wins the RR to take on Barrett after developing a bit of a divide in Nexus but all the time hinting that Cena is turning heel as he likes the power. He wants to be a face, but he has to act like a heel, but he kind of seems to like being in the group at times but dislikes taking orders from Barrett, pretty standard stuff.

Id make Nexus actually start to do more than random beatdowns by having Gabriel feud with Bryan which id really like to see but right now they are using Nexus as a goofy job/beatdown crew kind of like Legacy was and they seemingly havent learned their lesson. Bring in Perfect Jr and Husky to use as a tag team and then set them up to hold all the belts at the Royal Rumble (Wade WWE, Gabriel US, HuskyCutty tag, id probably cut the dead wood of the other two). At this point having lots of faces is optimal.

Id have Cena go over at the Royal Rumble. The story is if he wins he is supposed to let Barrett get an easy WM win and go down in history and such and such. Set up the WM match to not only be about the title but also who is leader of the group with the loser being forced to leave as the group starts to see Cena as one of them and the group was always about all of them, not just Barrett. Have Cena go super Cena ldo and have him celebrate with the rest of Nexus indicating a heel turn. At WM id have Bryan go over Gabriel for the US and have the tag belts stay with Nexus cos all tag teams in the WWE are **** right now.

Then next night on Raw id have him cut a promo with his Nexus, beat down everyone disband the group who can all go their own ways so Cole and King give their ridiculous gushing "oh we love you Cena" stuff, then bring out the usual cast of midcard faces like Bourne, MVP etc and then have Cena go animal on them all and fully monster heel turn him talking up how they didnt have his back when he was forced to be part of Nexus, how he always went it alone, pretty standard screw you all speech. Queue awesome shots of crying children.

So in the course of 24 hours you swerve, reswerve and then full heel turn whilst ending the old Nexus story and opening the heel super Cena as WWE champ story.
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10-06-2010 , 05:16 PM
Gabriel/Bryan, awesome feud, book it!

Husky/Hennig tag team holding the belts, awesome, book it!

So many ways to make this work. darthrob is right about the lack of faces now though. even if they get HHH back soon they'll still be short faces.
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10-06-2010 , 05:39 PM
In the past year they have elevated Kane, Swagger, Sheamus, Barrett, Miz - on the face side they have elevated Rey.

They have lots of faces, probably too many given Raw has one midcard heel (outside of Nexus anyway) with Ted (that i can think of anyway), they just need to elevate them better. Kofi should be main eventing right now, Morrison has the ring work to get past the gimmick and mic work for now, Christian pre injury was ready to go, MVP gets enough crowd pop that he could be elevated if he was less of a tool backstage. Bryan is obv early but i see him there very very quickly, give it a year and a good storyline as he is obviously seen as a top guy given the huge push he has gotten since his return.

So right now say you need one face on each brand we have Morrison and Kofi basically ready to go right now needing nothing more than a good storyline.

Fwiw HHH is said to be on his last year as his neck is pretty shot, i wouldnt be shocked to see him come back as GM, XYZ happens and he has his retirement match at WM next year. They need to think medium term and i dont think they are short of talent at all, they just need to pull the trigger on some of these guys and see if they sink (Swagger) or swim (Sheamus)
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10-06-2010 , 05:49 PM
btw STONE COLD! STONE COLD! recently said his neck is basically healed and he wouldn't rule out one more match.
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10-06-2010 , 06:08 PM
I hadn't heard about MVP being a backstage tool. More about that?
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10-06-2010 , 06:25 PM
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I hadn't heard about MVP being a backstage tool. More about that?
When he went on that huge losing streak its basically because he started acting like a jackass and caught the attention of the wrong person (i read somewhere it was Undertaker). I also read somewhere that they still werent sold on him getting his **** together which is why when he got drafted to Raw he made a big impact but then just drifted into the background.

Maybe im just being harsh on him, but the guy is super solidly over, a pretty good in ring worker and he is reliable but he doesnt even get pushed as upper midcard any more with many getting pushed past him.
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10-06-2010 , 07:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RLescLNHsE

DudleyDawg put up highlights of a NOAH match, Atsushi Aoki & Kota Ibushi vs KENTA and Taiji Ishimori. Tons of great athleticism and counters in this one.
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10-06-2010 , 08:10 PM
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btw STONE COLD! STONE COLD! recently said his neck is basically healed and he wouldn't rule out one more match.
Dear god please one time. Must see TV.
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10-06-2010 , 08:42 PM
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Dear god please one time. Must see TV.
It'll be wasted unless it's against a heel Cena/Orton/Rock/Miz
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10-06-2010 , 09:05 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RLescLNHsE

DudleyDawg put up highlights of a NOAH match, Atsushi Aoki & Kota Ibushi vs KENTA and Taiji Ishimori. Tons of great athleticism and counters in this one.
jeez those guys work stiff. great vid, thanks!
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10-06-2010 , 10:07 PM
I don't know what I would want to see more... Miz/Austin or Orton/Austin... If they ever wanted Orton to go on a massive heel run, this could push him to a level we haven't seen in a long fkn time. But Austin would never come back for a one-off to put someone over, so I guess it's out of the question.
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10-06-2010 , 10:11 PM
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jeez those guys work stiff. great vid, thanks!
NP! All his vids are good.

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I don't know what I would want to see more... Miz/Austin or Orton/Austin... If they ever wanted Orton to go on a massive heel run, this could push him to a level we haven't seen in a long fkn time. But Austin would never come back for a one-off to put someone over, so I guess it's out of the question.
Punk/Austin would be great too. Also I wouldn't put it past Austin to come back and put someone over.
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10-06-2010 , 10:13 PM
Yea IDK if Austin would have trouble putting someone over.
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10-06-2010 , 10:18 PM
I understand he has respect for the business, but jeez, I just can't see him putting any of the current stars over.

Can't ****ing believe I forgot Punk/Austin. That goes to the top of my list. Would be EPIC!
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10-06-2010 , 10:33 PM
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Yea IDK if Austin would have trouble putting someone over.
Two of Austin's late career actions which call his desire to put anyone over into question were: not jobbing to Brock Lesnar in a hastily booked match on Raw, and then absolutely refusing to lay down for (of all people) Jonathan Coachman.

He declined both times and stayed home rather than put them over. Coach I can understand, not sure who was smoking what that day, but not putting Lesnar over was just selfishness.
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10-06-2010 , 11:25 PM
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Two of Austin's late career actions which call his desire to put anyone over into question were: not jobbing to Brock Lesnar in a hastily booked match on Raw, and then absolutely refusing to lay down for (of all people) Jonathan Coachman.

He declined both times and stayed home rather than put them over. Coach I can understand, not sure who was smoking what that day, but not putting Lesnar over was just selfishness.
I always thought the deal was that Austin was happy to job for Lesnar, but felt that Lesnar/Austin should be built up and be a PPV ME level match, not some throwaway on Raw, which to me is as reasonable as any reason not to job.
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10-07-2010 , 12:10 AM
It is reasonable to want not to job in that situation. I was unhappy with Austin that he decided just to take his ball and go home in that situation, but he has enough goodwill built up to do whatever he wants.
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10-07-2010 , 12:58 AM
So I'm watching the yankees/twins game in this bar near where I live, and the owner comes up and starts talking to us and talking about how he used to be involved in professional wrestling. And this dude I'm with is like "JAMISON, YOU'RE ****ING JAMISON". I had no clue, but apparently my friend worked at the Poughkeepsie news with some dude who tracked him down for an article a few years ago.

And he was Jamison, the geeky nerd dude from late 80's early 90's wwf and comped us a bunch of free pitchers the rest of the night. Bar is called the underground its at like 106 and Broadway for any of you NY'ers who want to stop by and say hi to the legend.
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10-07-2010 , 02:28 AM
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It is reasonable to want not to job in that situation. I was unhappy with Austin that he decided just to take his ball and go home in that situation, but he has enough goodwill built up to do whatever he wants.
What a bunch of crap the booking was that summer, Lesnar went over Hogan on Smackdown and not a build/PPV for that either, though Hogan really put him over/was wearing a Flair-esque crimson mask after the match. Also a shame HBk never had a feud with Lesnar either. Having Big Show be the 1st guy to beat him was a stone joke.
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10-07-2010 , 08:45 AM
I like the idea of Barrett holding the title and Cena winning the Rumble. Seems like something that may actually happen.

although you have to deal with the Miz somehow
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10-07-2010 , 09:37 AM
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So I'm watching the yankees/twins game in this bar near where I live, and the owner comes up and starts talking to us and talking about how he used to be involved in professional wrestling. And this dude I'm with is like "JAMISON, YOU'RE ****ING JAMISON". I had no clue, but apparently my friend worked at the Poughkeepsie news with some dude who tracked him down for an article a few years ago.

And he was Jamison, the geeky nerd dude from late 80's early 90's wwf and comped us a bunch of free pitchers the rest of the night. Bar is called the underground its at like 106 and Broadway for any of you NY'ers who want to stop by and say hi to the legend.
Holy ****. Been to that place a bunch before it changed ownership. also. Hello neighbor.

Jameson; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvjHYTzPQCA
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10-07-2010 , 02:09 PM
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I always thought the deal was that Austin was happy to job for Lesnar, but felt that Lesnar/Austin should be built up and be a PPV ME level match, not some throwaway on Raw, which to me is as reasonable as any reason not to job.
Heyman alludes to what your talking about in this interesting interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6UlD...eature=related

I really like Paul Heyman, you'd expect him to be whiny and unprofessional, but he really isn't, he's a very articulate, passionate guy, it'd be nice to see him back sometime soon, i remember pages ago on this thread there were rumours of him going to TNA, but it almost feels like nodoby watches TNA on this thread anymore(i don't), which is a shame, but purely their own fault.

If they somehow got Heyman, it would attract me to TNA more than any other person i know in the wrestling business, is there anybody else who you guys could think of that would excite you more?
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10-07-2010 , 02:20 PM
I still watch TNA. Mostly so I'll know what Spoony is talking about in his rants, but also because they still put on some good wrestling matches.

I fast forward A LOT.

Live Impact Tonight, Foley/Flair in a Last Man Standing!
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10-07-2010 , 02:27 PM
Hasnt Austin been w Heyman in Lesnars MMA matches? whars the deal w him not jobbing to Brock?
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10-07-2010 , 03:04 PM
hello again wrestlemania thread. the dnky is returned.

i was told to come back by another poster. no names included amp.

i will bring with me anti-wwe rants, as well as ROH chat.

now whos with me.
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