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12-31-2009 , 10:30 PM
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Anyone watching the TNA's NYE show? It's an 8 woman #1 contenders match, a woman tag team match, and showing some of their best matches of the year.

I believe right now it's Joe-Daniels-Styles from the last PPV. I've been trying to get back into wrestling, watching the weekly stuff and the ppv's. I just saw Daniels give Styles a Rock Bottom onto Joe WHILE Daniels had Joe in a Dragon Sleeper, I might be back.
That was from Turning Point. My fave match of the year and yeah that spot was awesome
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01-01-2010 , 10:41 AM
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Who is the big name reportedly retiring after WM26? Hope it isn't HBK
To correct myself from earlier, Shawn has asked for time off after Mania like happened in 09 but doesnt seem to be retiring (though its not many years off).

One thing i did remember is Mark Henry was talking about retiring after this coming Mania as his contract is up after it. But since then he has had a good amount of midcard push so who knows how he feels now.

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It's pseudo fantasy booking, although some of the matches I think are locks like HBK vs UT, Jericho vs Edge, Bret vs Vince.
What the WWE office is most hopeful for right now is Bret and Shawn vs Vince and Hunter.

The noise on Shawn vs Taker is mostly coming from Shawn (no idea where Taker stands but ultimately it comes down to him i assume).

Personally id much prefer to see the 2 on 2 with Taker facing Jericho, if Edge is healthy have him face Jericho and have Taker face Punk (with the Heavyweight belt being feuded over with Batista vs Morrison).

This allows them to heel turn Hunter which has been on the cards for months, allows Bret's exposure to be minimised in the ring (not just risk but ring rust too, though he can still go better than 90% of the roster im sure) and is an awesome way to put to rest the Montreal Screwjob with HHH finally getting more recognition as the guy who actually came up with the plan.
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01-01-2010 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
This allows them to heel turn Hunter which has been on the cards for months, allows Bret's exposure to be minimised in the ring (not just risk but ring rust too, though he can still go better than 90% of the roster im sure) and is an awesome way to put to rest the Montreal Screwjob with HHH finally getting more recognition as the guy who actually came up with the plan.
Hmm didn't know about that. I remember seeing a documentry about Bret that came out a few years back about this. There was a point right at the end where Bret's wife was shouting at both HHH and Shawn after the incident in Bret's locker room about how could they let this happen and they just held thier head in shame. It never mentioned HHH masterminding anything.
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01-01-2010 , 01:24 PM
I sort of thought the idea of a HBK/Undertaker match with Hart as the ref or something seemed likely with the way the storylines are setting up but who knows.
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01-01-2010 , 01:46 PM
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Hmm didn't know about that. I remember seeing a documentry about Bret that came out a few years back about this. There was a point right at the end where Bret's wife was shouting at both HHH and Shawn after the incident in Bret's locker room about how could they let this happen and they just held thier head in shame. It never mentioned HHH masterminding anything.
Vince, Shawn and Hunter formed the idea together when they were hanging out talking shop but ive read that HHH came up with the idea to screwjob him at the PPV.

Hebnor was told what to do but he gets plenty of hate for his involvement despite being nothing to do with the planning, but because he wasnt in front of the cameras at the time HHH got away with a lot of the blame of that night.

As it happens i was on a wrestling forum looking up some details the other day through a google link and there was a discussion on the screwjob where a lot of people were hating on Bret for not dropping the title at Montreal as he was asked etc.

For one of the most talked about events in the industries history there has never been a full unbiased record, documentary or extensive article, of what happened on the night and the events leading up to it (that ive seen anyway).
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01-01-2010 , 01:57 PM
Wrestling with shadows was the documentry I was talking about FWIW. It was very Pro Bret but was still the closest thing I have seen for a behind the scenes look at the screwjob. They followed him around for a while leading upto the incident and there was backstage footage after the incident itself.
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01-01-2010 , 03:12 PM
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Hmm didn't know about that. I remember seeing a documentry about Bret that came out a few years back about this. There was a point right at the end where Bret's wife was shouting at both HHH and Shawn after the incident in Bret's locker room about how could they let this happen and they just held thier head in shame. It never mentioned HHH masterminding anything.
I think HHH's role didn't come up until a long time after it happened, maybe the first time was in HBK's book.
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01-01-2010 , 03:21 PM
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This allows them to heel turn Hunter which has been on the cards for months, allows Bret's exposure to be minimised in the ring (not just risk but ring rust too, though he can still go better than 90% of the roster im sure) and is an awesome way to put to rest the Montreal Screwjob with HHH finally getting more recognition as the guy who actually came up with the plan.
So Bret does have the physical capability of working a match at this point?

I guess I was under the impression that others earlier in the thread were, that there's no way of him doing a full match.
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01-01-2010 , 04:47 PM
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So Bret does have the physical capability of working a match at this point?

I guess I was under the impression that others earlier in the thread were, that there's no way of him doing a full match.
Its all rumour and second hand gossip pretty much at this point.

What i posted about him working a tag match with Shawn was posted on wrestling news world which is tapped in with good sources so we know what the officials want, but there has been zero word from Bret as to what he is capable of right now.

We will find out a lot more on Monday's Raw and the following days as he does interviews as to what the final role of Bret will be.
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01-02-2010 , 12:42 AM
tommy dreamer's emotional goodbye to WWE fans

I missed most of Tommy Dreamer's career, but the response he got at ECW One Night Stand I was awesome and the finish to his match on that show was fitting. If anyone hasn't seen that show, look for it on Youtube, it's a great show top-to-bottom..
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01-02-2010 , 09:03 AM
Excellent interview with Hulk Hogan

http://tv.ign.com/articles/105/1057741p1.html

-He puts over AJ Styles huge as well as the X division. Hogan's goal is to make AJ Styles a regular household name on the level of Hogan and Flair (no joke)

-Hogan doesn't have a deal to come in and wrestle, so he will be working as an onscreen character and not actually get into the ring

-When asked about Vince Russo he totally avoided the question only mentioning big changes are on the way and some people will be let go

-puts over the talent of TNA, thinks they'er loaded with talent but used the wrong way (this is so correct)

So Hogan is saying all the right things, we'll see how things go in 2010 with TNA. If TNA can get rid of Russo, that's already a major win.
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01-02-2010 , 11:05 AM
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I've been talking to certain wrestlers on the phone lately, and certain female wrestlers that were huge stars ten years ago, and the first thing I ask them is "do you still want to work?" Do they want to talk, or do they want to wrestle or do something else in the business?
Stratusfaction @ TNA?

Lita?

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IGN: You just wrapped up a wrestling tour down in Australia with Flair. I have to ask you…what are the chances of getting in the ring and wrestling some matches in TNA?

Hogan: Slim to none, man. I don't have a deal to wrestle there. You can just think of it as if Dixie Carter had hired Vince McMahon to come in and breathe super energy and super life into the product. Think if Vince was actually hired, what would he do? And that's the best way I can describe it.
That alone has made me more buzzed. Well that and the huge way he has put over AJ in this and other interviews. Oh and the X Div, bringing the X Div to more relevance and pushing it to be equal to the heavyweight title would be an amazing move.

(for background to how it can work and how its so great to create a dual stream big league title to feud across each other, see what ECW did with the TV title under RVD and ROH did with the Pure title under McGuinness)

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I told her that if the time comes when she's doing a dissertation or talking to the guys or laying down the law and that crowd starts going "Hogan Stinks! Hogan Stinks!" then you've got a problem. Because one of the things that the WWE does is they shove programming down people throats instead of listening to the fans. And you do have to give the fans what they want.


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Hogan: Brother, they've got so much talent that it blows my mind. When I see the work rate and how hard these guys work out there. I think they've got the best talent in the business. Honestly. I think AJ Styles hasn't been developed to his full potential. There's a guy there named a Abyss who's just talented beyond belief. I think Matt Morgan's a superstar. There are a bunch of young guys in the X Division and they've got so much to offer but they haven't been really plugged in with the right vibe. And the Knockout Division? The women. These girls are really aggressive and talented. And then you've' got the guys who have been around the block and bringing a lot of wisdom and a lot of energy to the business. You've got Kevin Nash who's hanging around and not being used in the right way. You've got Mick Foley who's a one man show in himself. You've got Sting who I pray to god doesn't retire and hangs around to make history with us. Brother, this place is loaded with talent.
Im shocked Abyss got such high billing. I love his monster gimmick and he has carved his own great niche but he is missing something to play off. Maybe TNA will bring back hardcore wrestling to TV? Its also great he is putting over Matt Morgan who has had an amazing 09 and really worked his arse off to main event level status and its nice for someone to recognise the USP of a solid womens division.

This is going to be a HUGE year for wrestling.
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01-02-2010 , 12:30 PM
More gossip and rumours

RVD, X-pac, Scott Hall, Ken Kennedy and Paul Heyman!!!! to TNA Jan 4th?

http://thesportscourier.com/content/...-night-special
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01-02-2010 , 12:58 PM
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Stratusfaction @ TNA?

Lita?
If when he says ten years, he actually means ten years, it can't be them. Sable/Sunny/Debra were big back then, but I'd rather have your two back.
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01-02-2010 , 02:50 PM
i dont give a flying **** about x-pac or kennedy really but heyman and rvd will be great in tna. also don't care about sunny/sable/debra and as much as i love trish she will never be in tna imo.

What kind of a name is Christian? It's like my parents naming me Jew.
-Paul Heyman
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01-02-2010 , 03:09 PM
The last news i can find on X Pac is he was found trying to hang himself and then ended up in rehab thanks to Nash. Scott Hall also ended up in rehab after he no showed a TNA PPV and they had Joe shoot hard on him and Nash (which Nash wasnt aware of until it happened). Both of them going to TNA are odd given they are unreliable with some bad blood and no real upside as they are basically unknowns. I mean you might as well hire back Kip James (who got fired a week and a half ago, shocked i didnt read about it and assumed it had happened earlier, lol).

Heyman would be huge, as would RVD - can you imagine the sicko matches RVD and AJ could have! Kennedy can easily justify a contract provided he stops saying stupid **** in interviews.

Re: Trish - she is dating CM Punk and im sure could easily snag a contract with WWE where she'd get to travel with him (apparently she regularly turns up with him anyway). I agree its unlikely she will return to the industry and if she does it wont be with TNA.
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01-02-2010 , 03:13 PM
WNW is reporting (as an unconfirmed rumour) that several sources have said RVD has signed a short term TNA contract.

ZOMG!!!111oneoneone

If true this alone should add several thousand regular viewers and PPV buys. So sick.
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01-02-2010 , 03:40 PM
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WNW is reporting (as an unconfirmed rumour) that several sources have said RVD has signed a short term TNA contract.

ZOMG!!!111oneoneone

If true this alone should add several thousand regular viewers and PPV buys. So sick.
This is pretty much confirmed now, there are several sites reporting that RVD signed a short term contract.

F4W reported yesterday in this little blurb, not sure if it means anything:

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Monday, of course, is January 4th with Raw and Impact head-to-head. Impact starts at 8 PM from Orlando with Hogan, Hall, Nash, RVD, ODB vs. Tara, and more, and Raw runs its normal 9-11 time slot with DX vs. Big Show & Jericho, Orton vs. Kofi, and Bret Hart appearing to confront Vince McMahon. Impact will also be taping on Tuesday in Orlando for the show that airs 10 days later (no typo), plus Smackdown in is in Louisville.
FWIW, X-pac and Scott Hall have been telling friends that they are coming in. Scott Hall has been working out and getting back in shape as well.
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01-02-2010 , 04:12 PM
xpac can gtfo seriously
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01-02-2010 , 04:33 PM
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Re: Trish - she is dating CM Punk and im sure could easily snag a contract with WWE where she'd get to travel with him (apparently she regularly turns up with him anyway). I agree its unlikely she will return to the industry and if she does it wont be with TNA.
Don't you mean Lita?
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01-02-2010 , 05:50 PM
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Don't you mean Lita?
Yeah, nice catch.
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01-04-2010 , 12:52 AM
Blurb on ESPN.com about Hogan on TNA as well. That's good publicity. I actually haven't watched TNA in a long time, but like the rest of you I'm rooting for it to do really well tomorrow night. If they do, everyone wins.
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01-04-2010 , 12:55 AM
Jeff Hardy tweeted that he's going to be at Impact. Probably just backstage but who knows.
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01-04-2010 , 01:56 AM
RVD's blog seems indicate he won't be at the show. He could just be trying to throw people off.

I predict TNA's big night falls flat. What have they really given us besides "hey hulk hogan will be there!!!" So what? We don't have anything to go off of. Maybe Impact snags a 1.4 or 1.5 rating out of this. Nothing more.

At least WWE has Bret vs Vince with the Montreal Screwjob as background/history. You can't find a more personal issue between two men. That is a reason to watch. Raw will score big with something like a 4.2 or 4.3 rating.
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01-04-2010 , 01:59 AM
I feel as though tomorrow should be a city holiday for Dayton.
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