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01-29-2012 , 02:29 PM
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Has the guy who has lost the WWE/WHC title then entered the Rumble straight away before?

This seems to gel well with my theory that Punk is losing the title, then losing the Rumble with Jericho going over and then Punk has to jam his way back into the WWE title match with an Elim Chamber match. Plan B in the theory has Punk going under then winning the Rumble, but Jericho almost certainly has to take the Ziggler spot so i dont see that as like even if it is a much simpler booking solution to the PPV.
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01-29-2012 , 02:30 PM
My LOL predictions

WWE Title - CM Punk
I think Lauranitis at some point during the match has an opportunity to screw over Punk but decides not to because he loves his title of executive vice president of talent relations and blah blah blah.

World Title - Daniel Bryan
Bryan is like 95% to retain. With Henry seemingly never healthy, they won't risk giving him the title, and I can't think that putting the title on Show is a good idea. Bryan will do something cowardly or opportunistic which is hopefully awesome.

Cena/Kane - Kane via DQ
I think Cena flies off the handle at some point in the match and gets DQ'd, but then he stops when someone (eve/ryder?) pulls him back from embracing 'the hate.' This match will produce many outraged forum posts

Rumble
First out - Santino
Most eliminations - Sheamus
Longest lasting - Brodus Clay
Entrant #30 - Dolph Ziggler (pulling double duty for like the 3rd PPV in a row)
Winner - Y2J
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01-29-2012 , 02:33 PM
If that spoiler list is true and I get
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Kharma
at #19 I'm going to be severely pissed.
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01-29-2012 , 02:35 PM
I used my already-lapsed hangover as an excuse to bitch out of going to the IU-Iowa game tonight so that I could watch the whole Rumble live.

I'm a terrible fan.
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01-29-2012 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Firefly
If that spoiler list is true and I get
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Kharma
at #19 I'm going to be severely pissed.
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I have Truth for a potential long run or first elimination and Road Dogg for maybe an hilarious runner up spot or something but probably not.

I was much more confident before the list got leaked, lol.
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01-29-2012 , 02:37 PM
WHC: Bryan lies at the cage. Big Show knocks Henry out with the WMD while AJ makes a sneaky surprise appearence that Big Show doesn't notice, handing some item to Bryan. Big Show tries to get Bryan, Bryan hits him in the head with the item and wins.

Cena vs. Kane: Cena is losing it, beats the **** out of Kane and wins. After celebrating Cena leaves the ring and we see Kane smiling since he made Cena embrace the hate.

WWE Championship: Big Johnny screws Punk but before he can count to 3 HHH's music hits, he comes to the ring, teasing that Big Johnny gets fired. When Punk gets up HHH surprisingly pedigrees him to hand Ziggler the win.

Rumble: Jericho does something epic and wins. Punk gets his title back in the Elimination Chamber and we have Jericho vs. Punk at Wrestlemania.

Probably not very realistic but who cares.
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01-29-2012 , 02:37 PM
FWIW I really don't buy that list.

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But Jericho at #30 obviously is nice for my draft pool.
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01-29-2012 , 02:41 PM
Watching the 2001 Rumble and seeing Regal enter really makes me want to see him enter again tonight...but not in one of the numbers that I've been given in the random.
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01-29-2012 , 02:43 PM
Yeah, for the record ive not bought into the realism of the list. Ive seen leaked lists in previous years that turned out to be complete bull****.
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01-29-2012 , 02:45 PM
Spoiler:
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01-29-2012 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Yeah, for the record ive not bought into the realism of the list. Ive seen leaked lists in previous years that turned out to be complete bull****.
I also don't buy it but thought it could be fun to analyze. And it seems mostly plausible. Person who posted it even said there is a reason that Mick will be knocked out of action but that he won't spoil that.
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01-29-2012 , 02:48 PM
Anyway, I'm off to do some **** before the 3 hour drive to Carrot River to watch the Rumble with Big Wally. I'll tell him he's internet famous and we want more of his stories. Also, keep fighting the good fight boys. WOOOOO!
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01-29-2012 , 02:55 PM
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I also don't buy it but thought it could be fun to analyze. And it seems mostly plausible. Person who posted it even said there is a reason that Mick will be knocked out of action but that he won't spoil that.
Yeah, i think its plausible. That one name at #19 stands out, but the rest are pretty standard in an order thats to be expected and it follows some of the mainstream theories about what is going to happen on the show.

Also,
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Mick not being in the Rumble, taken out during the WWE match and then giving his spot to Punk seems really logical to me. If thats how it goes down its a nice touch as it keeps to the kayfabe of the situation.
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01-29-2012 , 02:58 PM
I have a wager with a buddy. We each picked 8 superstars - whomever has the winner (assuming either of us does) wins dinner. Who do you like:

Mine: Jericho; Sheamus; Ziggler; HHH; Punk; Undertaker; The Rock; Big Show
His: Randy Orton; Daniel Bryan; Cody Rhodes; Wade Barrett; John Cena; Brodus Clay; Johnny Ace; Ryder
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01-29-2012 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Has the guy who has lost the WWE/WHC title then entered the Rumble straight away before?
This got me curious, so I checked Wikipedia and was stunned by the percentage of champions that retain at the RR. For the World and WWE titles:

2011: Both retain (Miz/Edge)
2010: Both retain (Undertaker/Sheamus)
2009: Cena retains, J. Hardy loses to Edge
2008: Both retain (Edge/Orton)
2007: Both retain (Cena/Batista)
2006: Angle retains, Edge loses to Cena
2005: Both retain (HHH/JBL)
2004: Both retain (Lesnar/HHH)
2003: Both retain (Angle, HHH loses but by DQ)
2002: Jericho retains Undisputed title
2001: Angle retains
2000: HHH retains

That's almost 90% for the champions in the 2000s.

The answer to your question is no, but there haven't been that many opportunities.

Probably means nothing, and I probably spent too much time looking into it.
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01-29-2012 , 03:05 PM
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I have a wager with a buddy. We each picked 8 superstars - whomever has the winner (assuming either of us does) wins dinner. Who do you like:

Mine: Jericho; Sheamus; Ziggler; HHH; Punk; Undertaker; The Rock; Big Show
His: Randy Orton; Daniel Bryan; Cody Rhodes; Wade Barrett; John Cena; Brodus Clay; Johnny Ace; Ryder
The completely bull**** calculator in my head gives you a 68% chance of winning.

Also LOL at taking Ryder and Brodus Clay. Over Miz/Swagger/ADR? Really?

Last edited by eyebooger; 01-29-2012 at 03:07 PM. Reason: I'd pick Lesnar before Ryder....seriously.
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01-29-2012 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wrongarm300
I have a wager with a buddy. We each picked 8 superstars - whomever has the winner (assuming either of us does) wins dinner. Who do you like:

Mine: Jericho; Sheamus; Ziggler; HHH; Punk; Undertaker; The Rock; Big Show
His: Randy Orton; Daniel Bryan; Cody Rhodes; Wade Barrett; John Cena; Brodus Clay; Johnny Ace; Ryder
I don't think there's a strong edge here. I think you have the best horse in Jericho, but I think he has more guys with some actual chance of winning.
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01-29-2012 , 03:10 PM
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The completely bull**** calculator in my head gives you a 68% chance of winning.

Also LOL at taking Ryder and Brodus Clay. Over Miz/Swagger/ADR? Really?
Ryder has a kayfabe broken back, even WWE can't be dumb enough to have him wrestle again after a week. I'd take Hornswoggle over him.
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01-29-2012 , 03:13 PM
wrongarm def has more potential winners.

His friend had a completely terrible picking strategy as Clay, Ryder, Rhodes and Ace arent ever going to win.
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01-29-2012 , 03:13 PM
Agreed. I couldn't quite understand the Ryder pick ... but I wasn't going to argue!
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01-29-2012 , 03:14 PM
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Ryder has a kayfabe broken back, even WWE can't be dumb enough to have him wrestle again after a week. I'd take Hornswoggle over him.
Its been kayfabe downgraded to a herniated disc last i heard. He will be back by Elim Chamber, WM at the latest to take out Kane.
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01-29-2012 , 03:16 PM
I think wrongarm's first three picks have some shot and his friend's first four have some shot. I'm giving basically zero chance to the remainder of both of their picks.
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01-29-2012 , 03:24 PM
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Prediction fail.

Spoiler:
Goldust #6 eliminates him to set up their WM feud


I wish i hadnt clicked that spoiler, but just how much its a spoiler or not time will tell. If its correct then we know:

Spoiler:
Miz and Truth are toss ups for first eliminated, possibly a double elimination.

Punk is losing the WWE title

Khali is in for some reason and will last long enough for the standard big guy to big guy vs Henry, hopefully this ends up in a Hall of Pain entry though

Kane and Cena in where they are almost certain to overlap means their feud will continue at least a month

Bryan retains as he isnt in the Rumble. See also Ziggler not in it.

Kharma in the Rumble? Holy **** if true and i was hoping she would make it back in time for WM, but if she enters she is easily the most shocking entry and its a huge spoiler for me kinda making me a sad panda.
Spoiler:
yes mah buoy d-bry and zig not on that list is the thing that caught my attention
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01-29-2012 , 03:34 PM
I got a shot at longest lasting as word backstage is that Brodus is going to get time to do his full entrance.
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01-29-2012 , 04:13 PM
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FWIW I really don't buy that list.

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But Jericho at #30 obviously is nice for my draft pool.
Yeah, not trusting that list at all.
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