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Old 01-26-2019, 09:00 PM   #26
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Re: NXT TakeOver Phoenix

Tag team opener definitely worth watching.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:18 PM   #27
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Awful kickout.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:19 PM   #28
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Possibly the worst kickout I've seen since Kota Ibushi kicked out of Brian Kendrick's burning hammer.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:20 PM   #29
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Not enjoying this match. I can usually overlook some of Ricochet's obvious garbage wrestling but this whole match has been that.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:22 PM   #30
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HOLY ****
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:24 PM   #31
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Not enjoying this match. I can usually overlook some of Ricochet's obvious garbage wrestling but this whole match has been that.
With Ricochet I tend to find that his spots are about as impressive as they take me out of the fact it's meant to be real.

I enjoyed the match. Gargano is just so good. His acting in ring, his ability in ring and his spots don't highlight how fake it all is.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:24 PM   #32
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This match is like when you hear a genre of music you're not in to-- I don't like this style of wrestling so I can't tell if it's good or bad, but to me it's boring.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:26 PM   #33
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With Ricochet I tend to find that his spots are about as impressive as they take me out of the fact it's meant to be real.

I enjoyed the match.
I usually enjoy him a lot. This match was overkill though. He killed my suspension of disbelief which means the match was a fail to me.

But I'm out now. Too sleepy. Enjoy, guys .
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:28 PM   #34
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I share a lot of the complaints, but I was honestly fine with that match until that kickout. Jesus ****ing Christ.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:32 PM   #35
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I disliked his backflip off the turnbuckle to the outside more than the kickout in all honesty. Spots like that just aren't impressive enough to make up for how **** they are. It's like suicide dives, overdone, unimpressive and it looks like the person doing it does more damage to themselves so makes no sense.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:34 PM   #36
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In the history of wrestling, there have been some good-looking suicide dives, but there has never once been a handspring back elbow that looked like anything but a complete joke.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:37 PM   #37
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Kinda feel like Bianca is going to get the "looks great in a loss" treatment here, similar to Becky Lynch at Unstoppable.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:39 PM   #38
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In the history of wrestling, there have been some good-looking suicide dives, but there has never once been a handspring back elbow that looked like anything but a complete joke.
Yeah, completely true.

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Kinda feel like Bianca is going to get the "looks great in a loss" treatment here, similar to Becky Lynch at Unstoppable.
Do not get her or her appeal.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:50 PM   #39
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Completely bored for that women's match.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:53 PM   #40
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This has been pretty bad by Takeover standards. In fairness, they have set the bar very high.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:59 PM   #41
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This has been pretty bad by Takeover standards. In fairness, they have set the bar very high.
Yeah, opening tag match was good, I haven't been into anything else really.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:00 PM   #42
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Been watching and most of NXT does nothing for me these days. I don't watch weekly eps but just going by takeovers it seems like it's massively dropped in quality. Still some good stuff there but the people they're pushing like Baszler, Riddle and Black are just meh to me.

Baszler turns 39 this year, can't see them investing too much in her on the main roster if she even gets there.

edit: Missed the tag match so guess I should watch that before talking too much :/
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:01 PM   #43
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Struggling to come up with any logical booking that results in Aleister Black winning back the title here.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:04 PM   #44
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ayo, one of you guys come help me and LKJ do RR pool drawings.
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Been watching and most of NXT does nothing for me these days. I don't watch weekly eps but just going by takeovers it seems like it's massively dropped in quality. Still some good stuff there but the people they're pushing like Baszler, Riddle and Black are just meh to me.

Baszler turns 39 this year, can't see them investing too much in her on the main roster if she even gets there.

edit: Missed the tag match so guess I should watch that before talking too much :/
I always find NXT weekly eps to be either kind of meh or absolute non-events but NXT PPVs have been nothing short of wow over the past couple of years.

Riddle hasn't really had the chance to do anything great. Black has had some very good matches and Baszler isn't my cup of tea but some great matches against people like Kari.

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Struggling to come up with any logical booking that results in Aleister Black winning back the title here.
Gargano interferes to cost him the match? Accidentally. Starts up their feud again or a story line direction. Realistically I see Black getting called up.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:12 PM   #46
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Realistically I see Black getting called up.
He's one of the guys I'm wouldn't be suprised to see in the Royal Rumble match tomorrow.

Other possible ideas are Velveteen Dream and Pete Dunne.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:13 PM   #47
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I watched quite a few of Riddle's matches in Evolve and some of Black when he was Tommy End, never been a fan of either.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:24 PM   #48
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He's one of the guys I'm wouldn't be suprised to see in the Royal Rumble match tomorrow.

Other possible ideas are Velveteen Dream and Pete Dunne.
I'd hope Dunne is tied into NXT Uk for a little while longer, can't see him getting a chance if called up.

Dream is an odd one. He's nothing special in the ring and needs booking to make him work which ultimately I'm not sure he'd get. He gets away with losing in NXT PPVs but on weekly tv? Not so sure.

Black is at least legit hard and has MMA to push him a little. They are also missing that dark character. Since his code orange entrance I've been bias though. Enough people on smackdown for him to have good matches with, raw less likely.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:31 PM   #49
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These kickouts are just idiotic.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:36 PM   #50
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These kickouts are just idiotic.
There are no shortage of analogies in life where the person needs an increasing dose to satisfy the high. It's why it's really a tragedy that finisher kickouts are so normalized. That's one area where my complaints are not just a bunch of oldmanyellsatcloud.jpg.
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