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09-24-2017 , 11:07 PM
I don't know if anybody is watching Raw talk, but Enzo is just the worst
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09-24-2017 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OneOut
Or at least not have Braun do the clean job. Brock has now basically discredited every full timer.
Huh? Losing to Brock doesn't discredit you. That's the whole point of his character.
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09-24-2017 , 11:12 PM
What I meant was that he's proven his superiority over all of them now. So if I'm watching a guy dominate on Raw, it's not all that impressive because none of them are as good as the guy that's not there.
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09-24-2017 , 11:22 PM
why should he be there when he dominates the best they have to offer?
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09-24-2017 , 11:25 PM
It felt like almost every match was out of sync, yet they all great spots which kept it from being a bad show. My favorite match was probably the tag match. It also seems I liked Cena/Reigns a little more than everyone else here, but not as much as I'm sure Meltzer did
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09-24-2017 , 11:55 PM
I remember nothing.

Possibly cause I drank a 17%abv beer; possibly because it sucked.
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09-25-2017 , 12:40 AM

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09-25-2017 , 01:52 AM
ouch
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09-25-2017 , 03:10 AM
Funny PPV. I went in anticipating the main events and not really caring about the undercard, but thought the early matches really delivered and the last part was kind of meh.

Tag team match was best of the night I think. Both those teams are so good and Cesaro's performance after losing his teeth was insane. Do agree with thread that Dean kicking out of that powerbomb spot was lol, but I'm kind of numb to that at this point.

I liked the women's match and thought every wrestler looked good in it. I've never been a big fan, but I thought Nia had her best match by a lot and the crowd seemed to agree.

Cena/Reigns was the finisher fest I expected it to be with two guys who just spam three moves every match. The mega push of Reigns is still just too absurd for me, even though he's improved immensely from the initial babyface push. Cena legit retiring seems unlikely and I imagine it's so Reigns can run his mouth about retiring him and Undertaker (which leads to something I assume).

Lesnar/Strowman wasn't bad, but didn't live up to the build obv. Definitely thought it would be more of a fast-paced car crash but it ended up being pretty methodical and short. Given how hot Strowman is (was?) I felt like it should have been less definitive to set up a rematch, but Vince seems deadset on Reigns/Lesnar the way this PPV went.
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09-25-2017 , 03:19 AM
Strowman/Lesnar was just weird. It was telling a great story and then it just kind of abruptly ended.

Big Dave's sidekick, Bryan Alverez said that this Roman/Cena match was planned out to be epic and be a career defining match for Roman. I don't think Vince got the desired result there. The match was pretty meh and for me, the worst part was seeing Cena clear both tables because this has now just become a staple of Roman's ppv matches. At some point there will be a contrived spear through a table.
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09-25-2017 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
After so many years of it, it's hard not to fear that their whole plan for this match is a hard-fought battle, Roman wins, Cena shakes his hand and tells him how much he respects him, and WWE hopes against hope that it will magically get Roman over.
Just watched the match this morning. Amazing.
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09-25-2017 , 10:13 AM
I don't understand the whole Lesnar/Reigns set up for WM. Does WWE realize that Wrestlemania is 6 months away? That they could do a lot of things before WM and still lead to Lesnar/Reigns. E.g., Braun wins the title. Roman wins it at RR. Lesnar wins RR.
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09-25-2017 , 10:27 AM
Dude, if they don't tell us right now what their plans are for Wrestlemania how else will we be distracted that nothing of consequence is happening in story?
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09-25-2017 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SarcasticRat
Funny PPV. I went in anticipating the main events and not really caring about the undercard, but thought the early matches really delivered and the last part was kind of meh.

Tag team match was best of the night I think. Both those teams are so good and Cesaro's performance after losing his teeth was insane. Do agree with thread that Dean kicking out of that powerbomb spot was lol, but I'm kind of numb to that at this point.

I liked the women's match and thought every wrestler looked good in it. I've never been a big fan, but I thought Nia had her best match by a lot and the crowd seemed to agree.

Cena/Reigns was the finisher fest I expected it to be with two guys who just spam three moves every match. The mega push of Reigns is still just too absurd for me, even though he's improved immensely from the initial babyface push. Cena legit retiring seems unlikely and I imagine it's so Reigns can run his mouth about retiring him and Undertaker (which leads to something I assume).

Lesnar/Strowman wasn't bad, but didn't live up to the build obv. Definitely thought it would be more of a fast-paced car crash but it ended up being pretty methodical and short. Given how hot Strowman is (was?) I felt like it should have been less definitive to set up a rematch, but Vince seems deadset on Reigns/Lesnar the way this PPV went.
I watched Raw Talk specifically for Cena because the end of that match had a retirement/moving into on from NXT feel to it. Cena said nothing of retiring, and actually spoke about wrestling in the future, so I just chalked that moment up to being out of sync like pretty much the entire PPV
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09-25-2017 , 11:12 AM
From the Raw Talk segment, I think we are supposed to gather that the postmatch thing was Cena realizing he is no longer "the guy".
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09-25-2017 , 01:29 PM
Skipped it, no regrets
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09-25-2017 , 02:51 PM
Anyone else not totally opposed to an Enzo CW Title run? At least his actions make sense with his gimmick, and his mic works provides some interest to whoever he's feuding with. Neville barely has any personality/gimmick, and just about no other 205 Live guys have any personality or worthwhile storylines.
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09-25-2017 , 02:56 PM
If he can’t work even a decent match with Neville (based on last night), it’s pretty dark prospects for having a good match with anyone. Cruisers, more than anyone, really need to be able to bring it in the ring.
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09-25-2017 , 03:10 PM
Brock Lesnar is soooo much worse for the WWE product than Roman Reigns has ever been, dude is a goddamn plague on this company.
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09-25-2017 , 03:12 PM
Was looking forward to the main events and both matches disappointed. I loved heel Neville and still didn't care about the CW championship, Enzo is going to make me actively avoid it.
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09-28-2017 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
A pre-emptive **** you to Dave Meltzer for giving this ****+.
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Roman Reigns pinned John Cena in 22:09. Fans started by chanting “You both suck.” Cena’s arms looked enormous, even by his standards. His punches looked bad, but they usually do. They each threw the other into the ring steps. Reigns dominated most of the match since the idea was for him t be strong. Cena did a power clean and put Reigns on his shoulders for the Attitude Adjustment, but Reigns kicked out. Cena came off the top rope but Reigns stepped back and power bombed him for a near fall. Reigns hit the Superman punch and went for the spear. Cena sidestepped him and Reigns went shoulder first into the post. Cena hit the Attitude Adjustment off the middle rope but Reigns kicked out again. Fans chanted “one more time,” but since Cena wasn’t supposed to do it again, he just smiled and kind of laughed. Cena went for an Attitude Adjustment while both were on the announcers table, but Reigns reversed and hit the spear, and Reigns went through the table himself almost head first. The finish saw Cena deliver two more Attitude Adjustments, but Reigns kicked out, and then came back to win using the Superman punch and spear. Cena raised Reigns’ hand and endorsed him and the crowd of course booed. Doing the commentary, Michael Cole called Cena “the greatest of all-time” over-and-over again, so that’s what they are going to market him as. The announcing throughout the show with the forced out-of-context lines they had to get across was really bad here. Cena stayed in the ring after the match to get the standing ovation. Fans did chant “Thank you Cena” and he spent a long time in the ring, staring at the crowd and saluting. This was a far less emotional version of Yuji Nagata after his last G-1 match. ****1/4
Tag title match got the same rating while Brock/Braun got **1/4

First bolded is hilarious and exactly what I thought when watching.

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