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01-03-2012 , 11:21 PM
Game theory says don't assume everyone plays the game like you do.


For example: don't assume everyone is a racist pos
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01-04-2012 , 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ItsRainingMen
well let's see:

heavyweight champion: brazilian
light heavyweight champion: black
middleweight champion: brazilian
welterweight champion: perpetually injured
lightweight champion: mexican descent
featherweight champion: brazilian
bantamweight champion: mexican descent (half white tho)

confirmed gg white man
dat dere affirmative action
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01-04-2012 , 04:05 PM
People didn't stop watching boxing until the Klitsckos took it over. I think that has much more to do with them being foreign. If there were two dominant,white American brothers in heavyweight boxing I think they would be as popular as Tyson in his prime.
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01-04-2012 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rootabager

His theory is that jones is going to usher in a new era of all black fighters who will crush everyone and the white audience will quit watching like what happened to boxing.
I don't think American blacks will ever dominate UFC and here is the reason why. Most dominant American UFC fighters(Jones included)have a strong amateur wrestling background. Wrestling season conflicts with basketball season. In the US if you are a good athlete and black you usually play basketball in the winter,so most of the dominant black athletes grow up playing basketball and never even attempt wrestling.

It's the same reason the US sucks at soccer. Football and soccer season conflict so the best athletes never play soccer.
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01-04-2012 , 07:18 PM
yeah i agree with that some. but what if you don't need the best athletes. Guys that couldnt make the basketball team start wrestling. that doesnt mean they aren't great athletes. just maybe not the top 10.
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01-04-2012 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rootabager
yeah i agree with that some. but what if you don't need the best athletes. Guys that couldnt make the basketball team start wrestling. that doesnt mean they aren't great athletes. just maybe not the top 10.
you do
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01-05-2012 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
Game theory says don't assume everyone plays the game like you do.

Which branch game theory says that??
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01-05-2012 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HENLEYS
you do
I am saying you dont need the top athletes on a school team. The second group of athletes is still going to be good enough to crush on some unathletic wrestlers.
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01-05-2012 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HENLEYS
you do
and you obv dont because the champions/ top fighters now are not top level athletes by any means.
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01-05-2012 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rootabager
plodding overeem would look like a child trying to fight him.
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throw him from the clinch.
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I think the man to beat jon jones is palhares.
Not even funny.

Jones is definitely in the top 2 fighters in the world but he isn't throwing Overeem anywhere, he would struggle to take him down imo and whilst he might land more strikes on the feet Overeem needs to land less significant strikes to end it.
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01-05-2012 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LordCC
Not even funny.

Jones is definitely in the top 2 fighters in the world but he isn't throwing Overeem anywhere, he would struggle to take him down imo and whilst he might land more strikes on the feet Overeem needs to land less significant strikes to end it.
I am a big AO fan but...


at their current weights yes, but jones would put on weight to fight overeem. he has two brother's who are pro and d1 defensive tackles. they weigh 313 and 265. I think jones could easily put on 30 pounds of muscle to fight overeem not to mention the weight he cuts already. The reem is still a physical specimen but jones could hang with him at that weight. A+ striking plus A+ wrestling beats A++ striking and C- wrestling in my book not to mention that even at that weight jon jones's gas tank>>>>>>overeem.

jon jones loses a lot of his height reach and strength advantage he has at 205 but he is still just so much faster fitter and better wrestler.
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01-06-2012 , 02:37 AM
Game theory explanation plz.
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01-08-2012 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by the steam
I don't think American blacks will ever dominate UFC and here is the reason why. Most dominant American UFC fighters(Jones included)have a strong amateur wrestling background. Wrestling season conflicts with basketball season. In the US if you are a good athlete and black you usually play basketball in the winter,so most of the dominant black athletes grow up playing basketball and never even attempt wrestling.

It's the same reason the US sucks at soccer. Football and soccer season conflict so the best athletes never play soccer.
Can't really comnpare football and soccerin that way, the people that succeed at football aren't the ones that would be the best players at soccer, just look at the likes of messi, iniesta and xavi.
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01-08-2012 , 02:51 PM
First of all, we've been through this already with the "Machida Era" that was about to come when Machida was a champion. A lot of people thought he was unbeatable but all that came to an abrupt end when he faced shogun. The same will happen with Jones. No man on this planet is unbeatable, all it takes is the right style to beat someone.

Also, Jon Jones would not handle the top heavyweights in any way, it's quite the contrary, Reem, Velasquez, and JDS would defeat him. If he'd put on 30 pounds he wouldn't have the advantages that he currently posses at LHW, he wouldn't be as fast, wouldn't have such a big reach advantage and his cardio wouldn't be good.
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01-08-2012 , 03:49 PM
loooool

this is way different than the machida era

Last edited by pageh656; 01-08-2012 at 03:52 PM. Reason: could get upset by hendo or sugar tho
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01-08-2012 , 05:02 PM
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loooool

this is way different than the machida era
In what way? Machida was undefeated and hadn't lost a single round until he fought shogun.
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01-08-2012 , 07:13 PM
he had lost rounds before shogun, not that it matters much.
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01-08-2012 , 07:53 PM
it's different because jon bones is on a completely different level when it comes to physical size and ability compared to his opponents whereas machida just had a style and skillset that was very difficult to figure out and overcome.

there is no way to figure out someone who wins by being far and away a bigger and superior athlete than everyone else.
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01-08-2012 , 07:53 PM
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In what way? Machida was undefeated and hadn't lost a single round until he fought shogun.
Machida only successfully defended his belt once. His one win was in no way convincing.

Jones has defended his twice and has completely destroyed the competition. He is also undefeated besides losing to DQ

Hindsight is 20/20 with Machida.
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01-08-2012 , 08:09 PM
Jones got outstriked in the first round by Machida so it just proves that he's not unbeatable. My point is that everyone thought Machida was unbeatable at the time because of his style and technique.
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01-08-2012 , 08:27 PM
not THIS unbeatable
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01-08-2012 , 08:28 PM
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Machida only successfully defended his belt once. His one win was in no way convincing.

Jones has defended his twice and has completely destroyed the competition. He is also undefeated besides losing to DQ

Hindsight is 20/20 with Machida.
I think the point was Machida hadn't lost a round in the UFC up until Shogun, and beat 2 undefeated guys (Thiago and Rashad) effortlessly to get there. Jones just did the same and even more dominate and impressively, but I think the point is no one thought Machida would lose for a long time either.
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01-08-2012 , 08:38 PM
Pretty much what caught said, his UFC career until shogun he dominated each of his opponents just like Jones did itb. Much like Jones, he didn't finish his opponents itb, but just like Jones got more vicious with finishing his opponents later on(at what he does best, ground and pound), machida did the same to two previously unbeaten and highly ranked fighters rashad and thiago silva.
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01-08-2012 , 08:50 PM
and then jones took a stanley steamer on the machida era
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01-08-2012 , 09:11 PM
Just like someone will do the same to Jones if he fights long enough, may be his next fight, may be in 5 years.
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