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07-11-2024 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by whatthejish
It’s annoying the Cole stuff had to be put on ice, but there’s not much you can do when the guy has a freak injury and really difficult recovery.
They needed to pivot from having Cole revealed as the devil at whatever ppv in December where Joe won the belt.
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07-11-2024 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OneOut
It's clear that the guys who came from AEW to WWE have improved their creative dramatically (Pillman, Page, Cody so obviously, and even Shawn Spears, who is mostly a trainer now). Even Punk. AEW is the wrestling show. If you want to have great matches without much storyline, go there. MJF is more character than great worker. He would benefit from better story telling.

No I have not seen last night. I am behind. Again, they should have called an audible on the Cole thing. Why is any MJF turn wasted on a mid-carder though? It would be like Cody turning on the Miz or Otis. Save it for a while. Work your way into it and have him turn on a top guy eventually.
I understand what you’re saying, and you do have some points. I just think MJF is better served career-wise by ruling AEW for another 5 years or so before going to WWE on his own terms much like Cody.

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They needed to pivot from having Cole revealed as the devil at whatever ppv in December where Joe won the belt.
For sure, they definitely had options. You’d think one of the best benefits of such a stacked roster would be the ability to adapt on the fly more organically, but unfortunately the company has handled most of these spots poorly at best.
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07-11-2024 , 02:38 PM
That devil thing would have been a great opportunity to swap to someone like Jay White and get him out of mid-card hell. Maybe even have Joe join the BCC.
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07-11-2024 , 03:22 PM


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07-11-2024 , 11:40 PM
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Why is any MJF turn wasted on a mid-carder though? It would be like Cody turning on the Miz or Otis. Save it for a while. Work your way into it and have him turn on a top guy eventually.
AEW values Daniel Garcia and this was probably a way to convince him to resign
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07-12-2024 , 10:40 AM
Britt Baker's in insane shape now. Hopefully she can put it all together in the ring, b/c she seems like the biggest star in the women's division, including Moné, who's been disappointing, but should be way better as a heel.
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07-24-2024 , 10:26 PM
Blood and Guts episode was a lot of fun. Dynamite has honestly been killer for the past few weeks.

All In card is pretty great so far.
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08-01-2024 , 01:35 PM
Blood and Guts was one of the better booked matches I've seen in a while. Although not really a guy I care much about, I like how they held the tension between Page and the Elite. The end kinda sucked though. Too many of these kinds of matches end because of what a guy threatens to do rather than what they actually do. I think WWE just used this ending on Cody/A.J. and I hated it then.

These titles continue to get out of hand. How many times has Tony renamed the whatever title MJF and Osprey are fighting over now?

Pretty amazing that the guy who seems to have gotten over the most with this crowd in the last year is Jeff Jarrett. How did he do it? Storyline and emotion. All the flippy guys should take notice.
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08-01-2024 , 03:20 PM
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These titles continue to get out of hand. How many times has Tony renamed the whatever title MJF and Osprey are fighting over now?
While I do agree some of the belts are a mess, this “change” at least makes a lot of sense in kayfaybe.

When Ospreay was still in New Japan, he won the US IWGP championship and re-dubbed it the UK championship. So in addition to playing into the bizarro nature of a heel holding the “face American” title, it’s also MJF making a direct dig at Ospreay.
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08-01-2024 , 06:17 PM
I don't even know what the title is or where it stands in the hierarchy. Wasn't that the belt Orange was carrying around in a backpack and called something else?

I hate O'Reilly standing behind Briscoe making stupid faces. They should have put him in the BCC. He's a very awkward dude left to his own merits.
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08-01-2024 , 06:25 PM
Yeah, it was originally the All Atlantic Title. It was “leveled up” (TK’s own words) to the International Title during Orange Cassidy’s long reign. Max rebranded it as the American Title last week. It is seemingly still technically the International Title, and MJF is just doing a vanity thing similar to Ospreay’s UK belt in NJPW.

It was starting to get some legitimacy as a workhorse belt even higher than the TNT title, but then TK introduced the Continental Title which has diluted the value of all three men’s midcard belts. It’s annoying, to say the least.

It’s also stupid that the AEW Trios belts and the ROH 6man titles are no longer unified. I was hoping that was a step in the right direction of belt consolidation, but I truly have no idea what TK is doing now. In my opinion, you gotta merge those Trios belts permanently and get rid of the ROH middle belts (TV title and the Pure championship). Additionally, the Continental Title should’ve never been carried around and just been ceremonial like the Owen.

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08-02-2024 , 12:27 PM
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It’s also stupid that the AEW Trios belts and the ROH 6man titles are no longer unified. I was hoping that was a step in the right direction of belt consolidation, but I truly have no idea what TK is doing now. In my opinion, you gotta merge those Trios belts permanently and get rid of the ROH middle belts (TV title and the Pure championship). Additionally, the Continental Title should’ve never been carried around and just been ceremonial like the Owen.
ROH titles (and ROH in general) need to completely separate from AEW and never appear on their television shows.

Just make it their equivalent to NXT.
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08-02-2024 , 12:32 PM
That would obviously be the best move, but it seems like the notion is dead for whatever reason.
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08-02-2024 , 05:43 PM
What could Britt have said about MJF that was so bad that it got her suspended?
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08-13-2024 , 08:35 AM
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08-25-2024 , 05:09 PM
All In was phenomenal.
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08-25-2024 , 07:08 PM
Wasn't the best AEW ppv but AEW has set the bar extremely high for themselves.

Bryan/Swerve was great

MJF/Will was really good. Unfortunately, a very predictable ending

Mariah/Anna was one of the best women's matches AEW's ever had

and **** me, the gauntlet match was one of the best on the card. The pop for Nigel was out of this world. Hearing his old ROH music had me marking before he stepped foot into the arena. I hope he can stay around to actually wrestle but I doubt that's happening. Could've been the best without the flat ending
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08-25-2024 , 09:13 PM
Yeah, that was a really fun time. Love this ****.
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08-25-2024 , 10:15 PM
I assume the Nigel return was partially to throw more names into "who can win this match?" and partially to test the waters on if he/management think a match with Danielson can happen.

He looked rusty but not terrible and can still work a crowd so I'm guessing he will be a Danielson opponent on the title run, maybe winning another gauntlet match or battle royal to get his shot since a full time run is probably not in the cards.

I'm not terribly upset with the Christian win but it would've been better without another fake Luchasauras face turn. They'll make the program work, Christian doesn't miss when given the tv time. Probably going to lead to Copelands return as well. Hangman winning would not have worked imo, he needs to go even more unhinged and finish the blood feud with Swerve and they don't need the belt or title shot for that.

Mercedes/Britt and Hook/Jericho were the only low points of the show for me and they were still somewhat entertaining. I rarely watch WWE PPVs live anymore but the AEW method of just going match to match with maybe a short lead-in video is so much better than 15 minutes of Snickers and Peacock commercials between each match.
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09-07-2024 , 12:15 PM
Attending All Out tonight, really looking forward to it. This is definitely a card for the sickos.
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09-07-2024 , 01:40 PM
Enjoy! Card looks great. I see 0 guaranteed stinkers like Jericho and the Britt Baker matches at All In.
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09-07-2024 , 06:39 PM
Enjoy, jish.

Can't wait for Swerve/Hangman. It'll be near impossible but I hope it tops the texas death match.

Osoreay/Pac gonna be all kinds of fun too.
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09-08-2024 , 12:06 AM
Swerve/Hangman was pretty good but nowhere close to the TDM. The ref spot with the chair was so silly. idk how these guys thought it was a good idea. The needle spot was beyond absurd, stupid, and bad. I think the cage was a bad idea as well. These guys being able to even go to the outside and aisleway was needed.

Ospreay/Pac MOTN for sure. I didn't even feel like they gave everything, either. Looking forward to another match. I think we'll get a Will/Pac/Ricochet 3-way pretty soon too

Statlander/Willow was the women's match of 2024 so far. Just greatness from those two. Not too surprised, either. Kris has been good in no dq matches and Willow's a great underrated worker

Sasha is ****ing god awful and should be fired. Worst match of the night for sure.

Bryan/Jack was just boring, esp for a Bryan match.

Will Mox "retire" Bryan? I don't think so but lots seem to think he will.

First half of All Out: 8.5/10
Second half of All Out: 5/10
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09-08-2024 , 02:34 PM
Show was very, very good, but lacked that truly great match that might have elevated it over the top AEW shows.

I guess Mercedes is quickly fading into "guaranteed mediocre match" territory. On top of that her entrance got very little pop so seems like the fans are already over her. I hate the piped in C-E-O chants in her entrance and her finisher looks ridiculous and is seemingly never performed well. Even if it were, I don't think it looks particularly cool and is a bad fit for a smaller wrestler anyway.
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09-08-2024 , 04:11 PM
It was a beautiful night of attempted murder

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