Jericho has to stop thinking that different stages of his career are different characters he can still play. Lionheart was a young, much more athletic Chris Jericho. It's not like he's Mick Foley playing Cactus Jack or Dude Love. Jericho can't do most of that **** anymore, at least not well. Maybe he should just stop completely. That match on Wednesday was a mess.

And the Sting segment might have been even worse. How long does everyone have to get the **** beat out of them for before their good buddy Sting comes out to save them. When Flair threw a punch, I thought he was falling and looking for someone to grab onto. And that drop from the ceiling didn't make me think "vintage Sting!" It made me cringe and think "Oh ****, Owen Hart".

Anyone watching Revolution? Has been a great show so far. Women's title match about to start.

Yeah, show has been pretty damn high workrate. I’m gonna be sleepy tomorrow, but this **** is great.

I’m thinking Ospreay vs Takeshita will steal the show.

That match was incredible. And without much of a story or buildup, just 2 guys going out there to put on a show.

WWE is going to regret not getting Ospreay. He's the best wrestler alive right now and his current style might not lend itself to a very long career

Darby just killed himself wtf

This is one of the funner retirement matches I can recall seeing

Man, that **** was so good. I’m tired this morning, but feeling great off that buzz.

Can’t wait to rewatch Takeshita vs Ospreay after work.

That Sting match was just surreal. The pre-match stuff was perfectly done I thought. But then it got bizarre with the sons doing moves in the ring followed by 5 minutes of people walking around and setting up furniture. Darby trying to kill himself for no reason. Sting taking a bunch of massive bumps and then "Stinging up" to a level that even the Hulkster never got to. I was highly entertained at least.

Ospreay-Takeshita was great and I'm so amped to see Ospreay putting on classics vs the better workers in the company.

The new look and color scheme is a huge improvement. I always felt the red/blue/white was rather bland.

That was a great episode. Feels like everything is popping off.

Seeing Okada come out and attack Eddie and motion that he wants the third best title in AEW made me feel like Tony would really debut Hogan in 1994 by having him attack Johnny B. Badd and challenge him for the tv title. Ridiculous. Nobody wants to see that match or him with that title.

Ospreay's matches are not for me. Didn't care for his match vs. Takeshita and I thought his match vs Fletcher last night was ungodly bad. Fletcher is a frequent loser who went 15 minutes with the new big star and kicked out of all Ospreay's big moves while no selling everything.

Swerve and Joe killing it as always. Jericho/Hook is a thing. I'm gonna try to be optimistic with it but it's weird.

Nice to have some good story matches booked in advance with Wardlow vs Joe next week and then Edge/Xtian the following week which should be tons of fun

Didn't they do the same with Jay White were he looked super weak in his first 5-6 matches after debuting?

I love Ospreay, but agree with your point. Not every match needs to be going for a 5 star rating. I feel like the only squashes they ever do are for monsters, but I think they absolutely can be effective for other upper carders as well to build them up. Khan loves letting scrubs like Action Andretti and Dante Martin go 50/50 with their big stars and it just makes the stars look weak. Then the lesser guy gets a slight rub, but then is buried and forgotten about like a month later anyway. The only guy they ever really tried to do that with and then keep a sustained push was Wheeler Useless, and he was about the worst choice b/c he's got the personality of a cardboard box.

I'll probably watch for the big matches, especially featuring Ospreay and Okada, but the product is just too incoherent for me to be an every Dynamite/Collision/PPV viewer.

Aew has a compelling roster but okada’s debut moved the needle literally none in attendance and ratings

Dying a slow death. Which is a shame

MJF is going to go to WWE, of that I’m certain

That’s quite the hyperbole, lol. They have a consistent audience that translates to a solid PPV buy rate. The sky isn’t falling.

And wrestlers should go wherever they’re treated best, whether that’s WWE or elsewhere. Just be happy that both we the audience and the wrestlers themselves have an abundance of riches right now.

The constant armchair quarterbacking on how AEW is run is so tiring. As a wise man once said, “Let it play out.”

I want aew to do well. The roster is amazing and its best the product is spectacular

But there’s no denying the attendance is ass and its ratings is not great. Even if ppv buys are solid, okada’s telegraphed debut got a 5% drop in ratings

There’s no denying something isn’t working

I deny it, lol. There’s plenty that’s working, there’s an audience that enjoys the product. Ratings currently use archaic methods and aren’t very reliable in the streaming era, I say this as someone who’s been in the television industry for over a decade.

AEW will likely never reach the level of WWE. But that’s an insanely tall order to begin with, and it definitely doesn’t mean the company is failing or that “something isn’t working.”

I’m really hoping Papa H and TK blow everyone’s minds with a true Forbidden Door event at some point.

I mean I hope I’m wrong

I don’t expect aew to reach WWE level status, that just isn’t in the cards, but I would like for them to be viable and there’s just no way the talent they’re bringing in is coming cheap

Maybe I’m overthinking the finances of it

This probably won't happen for a while though. Maybe late 2025 or 2026 at earliest. I'd like to think MJF might stay if AEW can stop bleeding its audience and start thriving.

Was Okada's debut telegraphed? I certainly wasn't expecting it. This Wednesday should be a real test with Wardlow vs Joe and Sasha's debut. It's almost guaranteed to do better than last week's abysmal rating.

Hopefully something can give it a shot in the arm. Something as simple as Will, Sasha, and Okada coming to AEW ain't gonna do it

I don’t consider myself an aew die hard by any means but even I knew okada was debuting on dynamite. It was cool, I watched it, but ya between all the rumors and khan’s commentary that seemed like a done deal

If they're written well rather than just randomly thrown in matches that will look nice, it might. But that can be said for basically everyone they've acquired and it doesn't happen often enough.

Amazingly, Darby flipping onto gimmicked glass and a bunch of steal chairs from a tall ladder wasn't even the dumbest spot of the night.

Ospreay tried real hard to cripple himself in his debut. This is such an insanely idiotic spot, as Snow says, there's no way to even protect him. That Ospreay came away with an ugly massive bruise on his lower back was one of the more favorable outcomes (they start showing the move at 1:10)

That was brutal. Watching in real time I didn't even realize it was a botch and thought it was some new move they thought they could pull off. Then seeing the replay made it seem like an even stupider thing to do. He was lucky to walk away without a serious neck or back injury.

I figured it was one of those intentional “okay let’s just actually hurt me” New Japan spots.

What was the point of the whole Bang Bang Scissor Gang thing?

And why did Tony decide to run this week's card in reverse. Main event on first, curtain jerker last. Helluva build for Joe/Wardlow at least. They may have mentioned it more than once last week. I'm guessing Wardlow disappears for another six months after this and comes back with another repackaging?